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Suggestions for a cheap but solid graphic card.


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I am having problems with this card right now as it will slow down every few minutes and cause games to be in slow motion or stop moving all together. Right now with money tight and trying to recover from the Texas wildfires, I am looking to find a cheap as possible fix until we land fully back on our feet.

Anyone have a recommendation of a solid bargain out there?
Games I play:
2k12
Mount and blade
Total war series

Primary Adapter
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by AMD
Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon HD 4650
Device ID 9498
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 2452
Subsystem Vendor ID 1682

Graphics Bus Capability PCI Express 2.0
Maximum Bus Setting PCI Express 2.0 x16

BIOS Version 011.016.000.028
BIOS Part Number 113-AC06100-100-PI
BIOS Date 2008/12/24

Memory Size 512 MB
Memory Type DDR2

Core Clock in MHz 600 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 400 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth in GByte/s 12.8 GByte/s
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See Toms Hardware Best Graphics Card for the Money, October 2011.
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Hi Quickgrif
Some questions for you, are you 100% certain it is the card as in how have you determined this.
The ATI Radeon HD 4650 is available as the pci-e, pci-e low profile and AGP type, which type is your card.
Have you checked the inside of the case and if so how clean was it, dust build up causes heat which can cause many problems including the symptoms that you describe
What is the brand and output of the PSU (power supply unit).
Try stress testing your present card with Furmark http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
Below are a couple of suggestions for you if your card is the pci-e low profile type;
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814134133 Fast, low power demand card but only 64 bit.
$31.99 after mail-in rebate
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Free Shipping(restrictions apply)
http://www.newegg.co...82E16814121397R Slightly more expensive and slower card but 128 bit.
Also low power consumption and the card that I would choose out of the two.
$39.99. Free Shipping(restrictions apply)

EDIT: The second card is now listed as out of stock :)

Edited by phillpower2, 03 November 2011 - 02:44 PM.

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Did some research on the web and the bottleneck problem kept coming up. I also checked both cpu and ram during program running and they were not being stressed.

My power supply is:
APEVIA ICEBERG ATX-IB680W-GN 680W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply With 3-Color LED Lights

Ran the benchmark test and am only getting a 299 score.
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Your PSU gets mixed reviews at Newegg with one review stating that his HD5670 started stuttering and lagging but was fine on another PC so he changed the PSU and all was well http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817148030 I don`t want you to change the card and lose money if it is not the issue so I suggest some testing to check your voltages and temperatures;

Download Speedfan and install it. Once it's installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.

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(this is a screenshot from a vista machine)


If needed we can use another software to establish the accuracy of the Speedfan readings.
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Your PSU gets mixed reviews at Newegg with one review stating that his HD5670 started stuttering and lagging but was fine on another PC so he changed the PSU and all was well http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817148030 I don`t want you to change the card and lose money if it is not the issue so I suggest some testing to check your voltages and temperatures;

Download Speedfan and install it. Once it's installed, run the program and post here the information it shows. The information I want you to post is the stuff that is circled in the example picture I have attached.If you are running on a vista machine, please go to where you installed the program and run the program as administrator.

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(this is a screenshot from a vista machine)


If needed we can use another software to establish the accuracy of the Speedfan readings.

Here is what I am showing with speedfan, thank you for helping me out as well guys.

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The +12V and the +5V (2 of) readings are too high, temps not too bad as long as there is no dramatic increase.
To see if we can confirm the Speedfan readings please download then run HWMonitor and again post a screenshot;
http://www.cpuid.com.../hwmonitor.html



EDIT: Sorry forgot to attach the PSU tolerance table for you to reference :)

Edited by phillpower2, 05 November 2011 - 06:47 AM.

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Thank you for the HWMonitor screenshot it supports the high +12V and the high +5V readings the Speedfan reported.
Replacing the PSU is a priority now as it is killing other components and it may have already damaged the video card but hopefully not.
A guide to PSUs, ones to go for and ones to avoid http://www.10stripe....d/psu/brand.php
I wouldn`t use the PC until the PSU is swapped, any chance you can borrow a PSU for now.
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Unfortunately I do not at this time. I will see what I can do but all my spare parts went with the old house in the wildfires. Any minimum power I need?
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Use a PSU calculator such as http://www2.corsair.com/psufinder/ this is only an example Antec and Newegg also have a similar facility, let us know what is suggested and we can look for a good deal for you.
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At least 430 by that chart.
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Newegg says 288 watts at least.
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139027 this will cover you.

EDIT: Just to add, you could try your video card in another computer to see how it behaves, if only for peace of mind as you have enough going on without spending anymore cash than you have to.

Edited by phillpower2, 05 November 2011 - 01:17 PM.

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