[danjjj]

I'm not quite sure if these are the correct forums, but they matched my topic the most.

I'm looking to buy a new computer for a fairly cheap price. All I need is one that can run the following games at an average of 30-40 FPS with minimal lag.

On full settings:
Minecraft
Super Meat Boy

On lower/lowest settings:
Team Fortress 2
Portal
Portal 2

Anyone that can help, thank you in advance!

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Hi,

Google for system requirements for each game individually so that you can create a list of minimum requirements for your computer. For example, search "minecraft system requirements"
or "minecraft system requirements no lag". And do this for each game. Write out the important details, like
the required cpu speed (and also cpu type - dual core or not), graphic card, system memory, free hard-drive space, etc.
Once you have your list, or table, filled with the numbers, write out the maximum values, to get a list of the minimum requirements
that you're actually looking for.

---

For example, suppose you have two games
that you want: Team Fortress 2 and Minecraft.
So after you google for system requirements, you'll find the following information:

---

1) Team Fortress 2 Minimum System Requirements
CPU: 1.2 GHz Processor
RAM: 256 MB
Graphics Card: DirectX 7 capable graphics card
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard
Internet Connection
CD or DVD rom drive

Team Fortress 2 Recommended System Requirements
CPU: 2.4 GHz Processor
RAM: 512 MB
Graphics Card: DirectX 9 capable graphics card 256 MB
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard
Internet Connection
CD or DVD rom drive

Team Fortress 2 Ideal System Requirements
For running the game smooth in 1280x1024 with High Quality graphics.

CPU: 3.4 GHz Processor
RAM: 1024 MB
Graphics Card: Radeon X800 or Geforce 6800
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard
Internet Connection
CD or DVD rom drive

---
2) Minecraft:

RECOMMENDED

Operating System: Mac OSX, Windows 2000, Linux
CPU: Dual Core or better
Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics, ATI mobility Radeon 5430 or equivalent
System Memory: 1 Gigabyte or more
Hard Drive Space: 100 Megabytes

MINIMUM
Operating System: Mac OSX, Windows 98, Linux
CPU: 1.8Ghz CPU or better
Graphics Card: Intel GMA
System Memory: 512 megabytes or more
Hard Drive Space: 10 Megabytes (absolute minimum)

---

If you want to run Minecraft on full settings, you need to write out the values from the "recommended" list:
CPU: Dual Core or better
Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics, ATI mobility Radeon 5430 or equivalent (if you don't see the amount of MB listed after the name, like
for example Radeon x800 or Geforce 6800, then insert that name into google, and find a page which tells you how many MB this
graphics card is - in this example Ati Mobility Radeon 5430 is 512 MB)
System Memory: 1 Gigabyte or more

And if you want to run Team Fortress 2 on lowest settings, with minimal lag,
then I'd wouldn't recommend picking the minimum requirements (because this way you may have a greater lag),
but something between minimum and recommended system requirements:
probably something like.
CPU: at least 1.8 Ghz (somewhere between 1.2 Ghz and 2.4 Ghz)
Ram: 512 MB
Graphics card: Directx 9 capable graphics card at least 256 MB

--

Once you have the system requirements written out for each game,
create the final system requirements list, by selecting the maximum values from the different games:

CPU: Dual Core (usually this type of processor is faster than 2.0 Ghz)
Graphics Card: at least 512 MB (Minecraft needs)
System Memory: at least 1 GB

These are the 3 most critical details to compare.
After you have this final list, you can start looking for the computer, since now you know better which are
the minimum requirements.

----

In addition, there's a really helpful site at:

http://www.game-deba...&game=Minecraft

Enter your desired game into the search box, and you can see if that game runs
on the computer that you're considering (you'll have to know the computer specs, which
you will then select from the dropdown menu on that site, after which the site tells you
whether this game runs on this type of computer or not).

---

That may seem like a lot of information, but I hope this helps.

[Dan Ashl]

Hi,

Google for system requirements for each game individually so that you can create a list of minimum requirements for your computer. For example, search "minecraft system requirements"
or "minecraft system requirements no lag". And do this for each game. Write out the important details, like
the required cpu speed (and also cpu type - dual core or not), graphic card, system memory, free hard-drive space, etc.
Once you have your list, or table, filled with the numbers, write out the maximum values, to get a list of the minimum requirements
that you're actually looking for.

---

For example, suppose you have two games
that you want: Team Fortress 2 and Minecraft.
So after you google for system requirements, you'll find the following information:

---

1) Team Fortress 2 Minimum System Requirements
CPU: 1.2 GHz Processor
RAM: 256 MB
Graphics Card: DirectX 7 capable graphics card
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard
Internet Connection
CD or DVD rom drive

Team Fortress 2 Recommended System Requirements
CPU: 2.4 GHz Processor
RAM: 512 MB
Graphics Card: DirectX 9 capable graphics card 256 MB
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard
Internet Connection
CD or DVD rom drive

Team Fortress 2 Ideal System Requirements
For running the game smooth in 1280x1024 with High Quality graphics.

CPU: 3.4 GHz Processor
RAM: 1024 MB
Graphics Card: Radeon X800 or Geforce 6800
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard
Internet Connection
CD or DVD rom drive

---
2) Minecraft:

RECOMMENDED

Operating System: Mac OSX, Windows 2000, Linux
CPU: Dual Core or better
Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics, ATI mobility Radeon 5430 or equivalent
System Memory: 1 Gigabyte or more
Hard Drive Space: 100 Megabytes

MINIMUM
Operating System: Mac OSX, Windows 98, Linux
CPU: 1.8Ghz CPU or better
Graphics Card: Intel GMA
System Memory: 512 megabytes or more
Hard Drive Space: 10 Megabytes (absolute minimum)

---

If you want to run Minecraft on full settings, you need to write out the values from the "recommended" list:
CPU: Dual Core or better
Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics, ATI mobility Radeon 5430 or equivalent (if you don't see the amount of MB listed after the name, like
for example Radeon x800 or Geforce 6800, then insert that name into google, and find a page which tells you how many MB this
graphics card is - in this example Ati Mobility Radeon 5430 is 512 MB)
System Memory: 1 Gigabyte or more

And if you want to run Team Fortress 2 on lowest settings, with minimal lag,
then I'd wouldn't recommend picking the minimum requirements (because this way you may have a greater lag),
but something between minimum and recommended system requirements:
probably something like.
CPU: at least 1.8 Ghz (somewhere between 1.2 Ghz and 2.4 Ghz)
Ram: 512 MB
Graphics card: Directx 9 capable graphics card at least 256 MB

--

Once you have the system requirements written out for each game,
create the final system requirements list, by selecting the maximum values from the different games:

CPU: Dual Core (usually this type of processor is faster than 2.0 Ghz)
Graphics Card: at least 512 MB (Minecraft needs)
System Memory: at least 1 GB

These are the 3 most critical details to compare.
After you have this final list, you can start looking for the computer, since now you know better which are
the minimum requirements.

----

In addition, there's a really helpful site at:

http://www.game-deba...&game=Minecraft

Enter your desired game into the search box, and you can see if that game runs
on the computer that you're considering (you'll have to know the computer specs, which
you will then select from the dropdown menu on that site, after which the site tells you
whether this game runs on this type of computer or not).

---

That may seem like a lot of information, but I hope this helps.

[danjjj]

How would this guy fend against Minecraft and Team Fortress 2, all other games aside?

1.6 GHz
Dual-core
2GB RAM

I'm not that picky about how my games look, so I'm fine with playing at lower resolutions (800x600 or maybe a bit higher) and at medium details (lower resolution textures and models) on Team Fortress 2, and lower resolutions on Minecraft.

[Dan Ashl]

Here's a bit more detailed tech specs page about Compaq 100B:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16883109071

Seems like this desktop is using AMD Dual-Core Processor E-350 1.6 Ghz
(and a motherboard with the AMD A45 FCH chipset),
and it has an integrated AMD Radeon HD 6310 graphics card.

I found a review/benchmark test, where they used this type of motherboard with exatcly
the same dual core 1.6 GHz cpu and the same integrated Radeon HD 6310
video card. The only difference was that they had also purchased an
extra 2 GB of DDR3 RAM, so that their tests were made with 4 GB
RAM.

Here's the review/benchmark test:
http://newtechnik.co...benchmarks.html

The test involved playing some games, like Crysis, Far Cry, World in Conflict,
Half Life 2, and Quake 4, and they measured fps.

In order to get a better idea on how Team Fortress 2 would run
on Compaq 100B, it is possible to compare it to Half Life 2 test results
(since Half Life 2 has the same system requirements as team fortress 2 - based
on the same engine):

Half Life 2 and Team Fortress 2 minimum system requirements:

Processor: 1.2 GHz Processor
Graphic card: DirectX 7 level graphics card
Memory: 256 MB RAM

In their test Half Life 2 ran excellent at High settings (1280×720),
with average 49.89fps. They even put AA and AF on maximum and still got
excellent 44.27fps.

My conclusion: I assume, that even if you have only 2 GB RAM,
you'll still be able to play Team Fortress 2 (with this Compaq 100B)
at High settings, with no lag. Since the core of the computer is
the same as in the test (same cpu, graphics card).

_____________


To get an idea on how Minecraft would run on Compaq 100B,
it is possible to compare it to Crysis and Far Cry 2.

Crysis recommended:

1) Processor – Intel Core 2 DUO @ 2.2GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (which is also 2.2 Ghz)
2) Graphics Card – NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS/640 or similar (640 MB, GDDR3, core
speed 500Mhz, technology 90nm, DirectX 10)
3) Memory – 2.0 GB RAM

Far Cry 2 recommended:

1) Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo Family AMD64 X2 5200+ (2.6 Ghz)
2) Graphics Card - NVIDIA 8600 GTS or better (512 Mb, GDDR3, core
speed 540 MHz, technology 80 nm, DirectX 10)
3) Memory - 2 GB

Minecraft recommended:

1) Processor - Dual Core
2) Graphics Card - Intel HD Graphics, ATI mobility Radeon 5430 (1024 MB, GDDR3, core
speed 550 Mhz, technology 40 nm, DirextX 11)
3) Memory - 1 GB RAM

Although Minecraft seems to demand a better graphics card, these
three games have somewhat common system requirements.

In their test,

Crysis ran on Low settings, and 1280×720 resolution averaged 27.5fps,
which provided playable frame rates, but was not flawlessly smooth.

Far Cry 2 was also playable on Low settings at 1280×720, with 24.2fps on average.

My conclusion: Minecraft will probably be playable, just like Crysis and
Far Cry 2, but on Low settings, and with frame rates less than 30 fps,
not flawlessly smooth. Moreover, if you have 2 GB RAM (they had 4 GB RAM in their tests),
then it might decrease the performance even more.
However, I guess that you'll be able to play Minecraft on Low settings.
No guarantee however! Just my opinion, based on the review and information that
I found from internet.

So if you don't mind playing Minecraft at lower resolutions, then Compaq 100B should
be fine.