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Need help with a PC build (NZXT Phantom, LGA 2011 socket)


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I will answer your questions later.
Just done a thorough review of the topic. You said.

I'm already stretching the budget with these parts, so any new parts should be in the same price range.


We will of course help you to build any thing you want but I am a little concerned that the build will become unbalanced and you will be spending money in expectoration of future super performance that may not be possible. So please do not be offended by me asking you to do some more reading, This one first, and you might look for similar.

> http://www.guru3d.co...way-sli-review/
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Having multiple video cards installed generating very high frame rates may not benefit game play. Some consideration must be given to the refresh rate of the display.

Vsync > http://hardforum.com...ad.php?t=928593
Adaptic Vsync, > http://www.hardocp.c...nology_review/3

http://www.gamersnex...-specs-compared
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Hey, sorry for slow response guys.

Having multiple video cards installed generating very high frame rates may not benefit game play. Some consideration must be given to the refresh rate of the display.

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Yes, i did research (very lightly) the screen. From what i read, getting 100fps on a 60Hz monitor is pointless. Luckily i went for a screen that's 120Hz. It's this one.

The multiple gfx is something that you guys don't have to take into consideration, as it is only an option later on. The only effect it will have on my build is the choice of MoBo and PSU. So for now, let's go with a single 680.

We will of course help you to build any thing you want but I am a little concerned that the build will become unbalanced and you will be spending money in expectoration of future super performance that may not be possible. So please do not be offended by me asking you to do some more reading, This one first, and you might look for similar.


None taken :) I will of course read every article you guys send me to improve my understanding of hardware and PC builds. As i mentioned earlier, multiple 680s is an option in the future if needed. When it comes to the budget, I am willing to stretch it further if you think it will be worth it. I'm also purchasing the GPU and CPU over in the states, leaving more in the wallet for other parts (roughly 375$).

I should also note that this computer will also be used for 3d modelling in the future (going to study engineering), and from what i understand this software (mostly autocad) is very straining on the processor (hence the 3930k choice).

Edited by Jakob1406, 13 May 2012 - 08:14 AM.

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Info on cooling.
http://www.xbitlabs....r-lga-2011.html
http://www.legitrevi...article/1784/1/
http://hothardware.c...-H100-Reviewed/


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I should also note that this computer will also be used for 3d modelling in the future (going to study engineering), and from what i understand this software (mostly autocad) is very straining on the processor (hence the 3930k choice).

Amount of RAM can be critical, Min would be 16GB, great advantage to have 32GB (add to your existing in the future.)
Multiple HDDs are desirable, (various types of RAID and DATA storage) again add in the future as required.
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Great links :D

Yes i suspected i'd need a lot of ram, another reason why i chose a MoBo with many slots. I'm looking for 8-16gb this round of building, and then adding on if i need more later. Right now i'd rather pick 8gb 1866mhz CL7 over 16GB 1600mhz CL9 (unless you think that's spectacularly stupid of me).

How will having multiple HDDs work in RAID if i have an SSD and then 2+ conventional HDDs? I know very little about it, only read briefly on wikipedia that having a 500gb and a 1tb in RAID 0 makes them both 500gb. A "RAID for dummies" link would be much appreciated.

Lastly i need help deciding one thing... There's a sale on a Corsair force series 3 240Gb SSD (http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233268). That's within my price range if i cut out the Seagate barracuda 1TB HDD. Would it be a wise move to go all SSD for now and "only" have 240Gb of storage space? Before making up your mind take into consideration that my current laptop has 80gb and that's enough for me + I have an external network HDD sporting 1tb (where i store all my movies etc).

I will probably add the Seagate later on anyways if i decide to go all SSD.
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Would it be a wise move to go all SSD for now


Yes, go for it before it sells out. I will get back to you regarding the rest of your post later.
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There is a lot of hype about RAM and I I, like others, get caught ot by the occasional benchmarks and reviews. links below, and there are hundreds more, My conclusion is, the sweet spot for SB and Ivy is 8GB DDR3 1600MHz 1.5v, low profile, (cas latency does not seem to make much difference in the real world) http://www.newegg.co...82E16820231548
For your build I would go straight for 16GB, leaving 2 slots free. http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231558


http://www.bit-tech....-sandy-bridge/3
http://www.anandtech...g-the-best-ddr3
http://hexus.net/tec...-bridge-memory/

Rai\\AID for All. > http://www.bjorn3d.c...ead.php?cID=886
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I trust your call on the RAM then, i'll see if i can find the same package (or similar) on the site i'm ordering from.

Will get back to you once I've had the time to study up on the links.

Also, I believe we've discussed most parts of the build? Any other pointers about the parts you want to give?
(There's plenty of time before i go out and buy it, so no rush)

Take a look and feel free to edit
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8iSx

Quick question about PC build threads. Is it normal to post benchmarks/results once the build is complete? My plan was of course to make an ending post with any snags i run into.

Edited by Jakob1406, 15 May 2012 - 03:48 PM.

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Quick question about PC build threads. Is it normal to post benchmarks/results once the build is complete?


User choice, useful for others browsing the topic, gives the a clue of how well a build performs.

How to build Tutorial, > http://www.diy-gamin...ild-a-Computer/

Generic Guideline for Disk Setup

Edited by iammykyl, 15 May 2012 - 06:42 PM.

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That article will be with me throughout the entire build :)

I've thought about documenting my build with pictures etc and give some benchmarks if others want a similar setup. We'll see once i get all the parts.

For now i'm putting this thread on hold until the purchasing date closes in. I don't want to be taking up any more of your time. Thanks for all the great advice.
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For now i'm putting this thread on hold until the purchasing date closes in. I don't want to be taking up any more of your time. Thanks for all the great advice.


Your welcome, enjoyed the dialogue,

Just a suggestion, you mighht revisit the Motherboard selection and see if your would really use all the features, would you be installing more than 2 GPUs? taking sensor readings? etc. compare to the Sabertooth with the 5 years warranty..

http://www.newegg.co...1^13-131-801-TS
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Just a suggestion, you mighht revisit the Motherboard selection


I will most certainly research more than i did when i landed on the Rampage choice. Luckily i have about 2 months to make a final decision. Will keep you posted on what it's looking like.

Also discovered one last thing about the ram...My store doesn't have the one you suggested :upset:

So i picked (based on what little knowledge i have) a set of Corsair XMS3 1866MHz 16GB Vengeance CL9 (4x4Gb)
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820233184 (2 of them)

Price matches a 1600mhz 16gb kit, so i figured it was a good choice.
If you want to suggest other models do note that the store i'm buying from only sells Corsair, Crucial and Kingston.
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General consensus seems to be that unless you are intent on achieving max RAM benchmarks, for us ordinary mortals, 1600MHz is the sweet spot

> http://www.anandtech...he-best-ddr3/8
For further information and insight into RAM, please read this excellent Post by

Macboatmaster >

http://www.geekstogo...-do-i-purchase/
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Ah...i wasn't aware the CPU had anything to do with it.

Well you are indeed right about the 1600MHZ limit, so i picked new RAM. I couldn't find a newegg link to it. It's called Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Elite 1600Mhz 8Gb (2x4Gb) cl8. Will be getting 2 sets bringin me to 16Gb. It even comes with a limited lifetime warranty (which i'll probably void the second i decide they need overclocking).

If you want to have a look for yourself, here's the link
http://www.komplett....ku=744213#extra

It's in Norwegian, but we use the same units so hopefully you can get an idea of what it says. I will of course translate anything you don't understand.
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