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When going to various sites on Internet computer would become unresponsive. I would shut computer down after I couldn't get it to do anything. When starting back up it would come up saying checking file system on c. Then chkdsk would come up and start telling me what file record segment was unreadable. A couple times it would finish and computer would start up ok. It would freeze up again and it would do the same thing. Then the last time it would go through the chkdsk routine but only get so far and not continue for hours. I shut it down and started it back up. Same results. Then I got online via my phone and read where it says NEVER shutdown when running chkdsk. So. Question : is my hard drive dead. And is it possible to get someone to retrieve my pictures from this computer or are they probably lost? Thanks for any help.
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Hello chief74.... Welcome to
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I'm sorry to hear about your issue. We will try to help you resolve this as soon as possible.
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Before we can help you need to provide the following so I can start you in the right direction.
Laptop or Desktop?
  • If a name brand system then what brand, make and model is the system?
  • If custom built then what brand, make and model is the motherboard
  • Total memory installed
  • Total hard drive capacity and free space
  • What steps have you taken so far to resolve the issue






First thing is lets try to get your data and pictures backed up.



Use Puppy Linux Live CD to Recover Your Data:

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***Required Hardware***
CD Burner (CDRW) Drive,
Blank CD,
Extra Storage Device (USB Flash Drive, External Hard Drive)

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1. Save these files to your Desktop/Burn Your Live CD:
  • Download Latest Puppy Linux ISO (i.e.: lupu-528.iso)
    Download BurnCDCC ISO Burning Software

    There are instructions on how to boot from flash drive with puppy here; http://www.pendrivel...e-from-windows/

  • Open BurnCDCC with Windows Explorer
  • Extract All files to a location you can remember
  • Double Click Posted Image BurnCDCC
  • Click Browse Posted Image and navigate to the Puppy Linux ISO file you just downloaded
  • Open/Double Click that file
    IMPORTANT: Adjust the speed bar to CD: 4x DVD: 1x
  • Click Start Posted Image
  • Your CD Burner Tray will open automatically
  • Insert a blank CD and close the tray
  • Click OK
Puppy Linux Live CD will now be created
2. Set your boot priority in the BIOS to CD-ROM first, Hard Drive Second
  • Start the computer/press the power button
  • Immediately start tapping the appropriate key to enter the BIOS, aka "Setup"
    (Usually shown during the "Dell" screen, or "Gateway" Screen)
  • Once in the BIOS, under Advanced BIOS Options change boot priority to:
    CD-ROM 1st, Hard Drive 2nd
  • Open your ROM drive and insert the disk
  • Press F10 to save and exit
  • Agree with "Y" to continue
  • Your computer will restart and boot from the Puppy Linux Live CD

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3. Recover Your Data
  • Once Puppy Linux has loaded, it is actually running in your computer's Memory (RAM). You will see a fully functioning Graphical User Interface similar to what you normally call "your computer". Internet access may or may not be available depending on your machine, so it is recommended you print these instructions before beginning. Also, double clicking is not needed in Puppy. To expand, or open folders/icons, just click once. Puppy is very light on resources, so you will quickly notice it is much speedier than you are used to. This is normal. Ready? Let's get started.

    3a. Mount Drives
  • Click the Mount Icon located at the top left of your desktop. Posted Image
  • A Window will open. By default, the "drive" tab will be forward/highlighted. Click on Mount for your hard drive.
  • Assuming you only have one hard drive and/or partition, there may be only one selection to mount.
  • USB Flash Drives usually automatically mount upon boot, but click the "usbdrv" tab and make sure it is mounted.
  • If using an external hard drive for the data recovery, do this under the "drive" tab. Mount it now.
3b. Transfer Files.
  • At the bottom left of your desktop a list of all hard drives/partitions, USB Drives, and Optical Drives are listed with a familiar looking hard drive icon.
  • Open your old hard drive i.e. sda1
  • Next, open your USB Flash Drive or External Drive. i.e. sdc or sdb1
  • If you open the wrong drive, simply X out at the top right corner of the window that opens. (Just like in Windows)
  • From your old hard drive, drag and drop whatever files/folders you wish to transfer to your USB Drive's Window.
For The Novice: The common path to your pictures, music, video, and documents folders is: Documents and Settings >> All Users (or each idividual name of each user. CHECK All Names!) >> Documents >> You will now see My Music, My Pictures, and My Videos.

Remember to only click once! No double clicking! Once you drag and drop your first folder, you will notice a small menu will appear giving you the option to move or copy. Choose COPY each time you drag and drop.

YOU ARE DONE!!! Simply click Menu >> Mouse Over Shutdown >> Reboot/Turn Off Computer. Be sure to plug your USB Drive into another working windows machine to verify all data is there and transferred without corruption. Congratulations!



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If you're doing this to recover from a virus or malware infection, (or even if you're not), DO NOT copy executable files (.exe, .scr. etc...) if any of these files are infected you could be copying the corruption over to any new device/computer. just copy documents, pictures, music, or videos.

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Once you have everything backed up then please do the following.

Run hard drive diagnostics: http://www.tacktech....ay.cfm?ttid=287
Make sure, you select tool, which is appropriate for the brand of your hard drive.
Depending on the program, it'll create bootable floppy, or bootable CD.
If downloaded file is of .iso type, use ImgBurn: http://www.imgburn.com/ to burn .iso file to a CD (select "Write image file to disc" option), and make the CD bootable.

NOTE. If your hard drive is made by Toshiba, try the Hitachi DFT CD Image version of the software

Thanks to Broni for the instructions
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I appreciate your reply. Question: with the screen freezing up/not advancing any further in the chkdsk verifying files, I finally just shut computer down for the last time. To try the things you mentioned, how do I get the computer up to download the item you mentioned. (sorry can't get back to your reply while typing this ). I figured the computer wouldn't allow me to do anything with it. I know next to nothing about computers.
Computer is an Emachine desktop. I will give you the info on front of computer: 340 intel celeron processor. 100gb hard drive. 512 mb DDR sdram.
I called a computer repair place and they wanted $50 to diagnoise problem. I don't mind paying that but they could give me no idea of final price. Being that the computer is probably 6 years old or so didn't know if it would be worth fixing. I am more concerned about all my pictures and videos that haven't been backed up.
Thank you again for your help.
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512 mb DDR sdram

Problem one as this is the bare minimum you want to run without any other programs running.

As far as downloading anything are you using that computer to type your replies here?
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Sorry. Don't know if last reply went or not as I didn't see it when I came back to forum.
I am replying to you via my iPhone.
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Yes it did and I responded.
Most important is do you have access to another computer that you could download the program and make the cd? Then just bring it back to your system.
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My daughter has one in her room. Tomorrow I'll try to make a cd on her's. Once I do I'll let you know. I really appreciate your help
Thanks you
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No problem and I am happy to be of assistance. :thumbsup:
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On my daughters computer. There are 2 versions. One for
Ibiblio.org or nluugf.nl
Which one should I download?
Says it takes about 29 minutes to download.
Am I in the right place.
I have been wondering. If I mess something up once I put the cd in my computer to try and retrieve my pictures, could I mess it up to where no one (computer repair person) could try and retrieve them?
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If you are doing the hard drive diagnostics you can get the Seatools DOS cd ISO. It will work for most hard drives. This will tell us if the hard drive is mechanically working.
It does nothing to the drive except test for bad sectors and heads.
If you are talking about the puppy Linux it only accesses your hard drive to get to the data.
You are not actually using the OS because Puppy loads into memory.
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Haven't got that far yet but when I start my computer instructions say start tapping appropriate key to enter bios.
Sorry , but what key is appropriate key? Maybe once I get there it would be self explanatory.
Just trying to understand what to expect so I won't run into problems in case you aren't available at that moment.
Thanks
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Ok now I'm lost.
First I'm just trying to download the lupu-528.iso to my daughters computer so I can make the disk to put on my computer. Wondering which one to download (see previous text) and if I was in the right place.
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To enter the bios it is usually the DEL key but yours may be a F key to enter BIOS or Setup.
The file you want is the lupu-528.iso
Then you will need the BurnCdcc program to burn the ISO correctly so that it is a bootable disk.
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Just an update. Went back to check the download of lupu 528.iso and still had only downloaded 7% after 25 minutes. Maybe daughters computer is super slow. So just cancelled download. I looked on Internet and saw where I can buy the puppy Linux on cd or flash drive. If I go this way which would you buy if you were doing this?
Thanks
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