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rab2344

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I was thinking of attempting to build my own system.  However, I am no expert and wanted opinions on if I should do this or not because of cost factor.  I have added video cards, memory, hard drives, and sound cards before but never built a whole system.  I have also never worked with bios on a new system either (that kind of scares me). 

 

I am wondering how hard will this be, and what bugs I may face.  To avoid some bugs I picked some of the same brand hardware to install.  I would really appreciate it if I could get some honest opinion on the difficulty level of putting this machine together or if I am missing anything.   System will be for both business and gaming.

 

The items I am planning to use are below:

 

NZXT Phantom 530 White ATX Full Tower Computer Case Includes 1 x 200mm Front, 1 x 140mm Rear 2 x USB 3.0 Fan Controller

 

NZXT Sentry-2 5.25" Touch Screen Fan Controller

 

Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD5000HHTZ 500GB 10000 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive

 

ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

 

ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

 

ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card

 

NZXT HALE90 V2 850W 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active

 

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9

 

AMD FX-9370 Vishera 4.4GHz Socket AM3+ 220W 8-Core Desktop Processor - Black Edition FD9370FHHKWOF

 

Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit - OEM

 

NZXT FX-140LB 140mm Enthusiast 3 Speed Fluid Dynamic Bearing 2000RMP Fan (2 of them)

 

CORSAIR Hydro Series H110 Extreme Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler. 280mm

 

LG Black 16X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Blu-ray


Edited by rab2344, 05 April 2014 - 09:01 AM.

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:welcome:   rab2344

 

 

Can I ask what the main use of the computer will be, what you maximum budget is and in which country will you be purchasing the parts.

 

Please do not worry about anything BIOS related as most of it is taken care of automatically by the MBs software and we will help you with anything else + of course the build process itself.


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Main use will be 50% business (graphics) and 50% gaming (COD Ghost, Shogun, etc).  Budget is 2K and parts are from US (newegg.com).  I thought about intel, but that takes my costs up much higher for an I7.  And thank you for any help you can offer.


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Checked the specs of the Ram etc and it`s all good  :thumbsup:

 

I will have a look for the best prices for you.

 

The 850W PSU is way overkill and you are paying a lot of cash for power that will not be used, I would change the PSU for one that is more appropriate and use the cash saved to upgrade the video card to a GTX 770.

 

One item that I am not sure that you will need is the add on sound card, most MBs and especially high end ones like the sabretooth have very good onboard 7.1 channel audio chips and you would need to spend a silly amount on an add on sound card to better them, the Newegg reviews for the card are also less than convincing of the cards quality and reliability, see here

 

Consider omitting the add on sound card and using the cash saved to purchase an SSD for the operating system and swapping the 500GB for a 1TB 7200rpm 64-MB cache HDD.

 

rab2344 list of parts

 

Build tutorial


Edited by phillpower2, 05 April 2014 - 01:42 PM.
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Gday.

 

Main use will be 50% business (graphics) and 50% gaming (COD Ghost, Shogun, etc).  Budget is 2K and parts are from US (newegg.com).  I thought about intel, but that takes my costs up much higher for an I7.  And thank you for any help you can offer.

I will look at configuring a Intel build.

What kind of "graphics" , photo/video?

What software will you be using, i.e. Adobe, Sony Vegas?

What camera/s will be used, brand/model/s?

Will you be using more than one display, brand/model/s?

Do you have a external backup?   Any spare drives?


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iammykyl -

 

Graphics is Adobe CS3 full edition and mainly photo (light video). 

Camera's aren't provided, I am given them via pulling from cloud to edit. 

I only use one monitor display, NEC 42 Class LED Edge-Lit Commercial-Grade w/ Integrated Tuner - 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 60Hz, 1200:1 Native, 9ms, HDMI, VGA, USB. 

2 External WD backup drives

 

I liked the specs on the i7-4930K Ivy Bridge E 3.4 LGA but it's almost 600.


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Thanks for the update. 

Some sites do special deals on "pick up only" if you provide your ZIP code? it could save you heaps.

Using the i7-4930K goes over your budget, have to cut down on other parts and the system ends up a bit unbalanced, also looked at using the i7 4820K, (giving an upgrade path) but it just does not appear to do the Job better than the i7 4770K, Haswell.

http://www.xbitlabs....0k_2.html#sect0   Other reviews come to about the same conclusion. 

http://www.guru3d.co...r_review,1.html

 

Suggested build, without a GPU until we confer.  > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3mU77

 

What kind of video card are you using at the moment, Gamer or Pro?


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Very nice iammykyl, add a GTX 770 and I will have one  :)

 

GTX 770 specs here


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Gday .

Thanks Phillpower2, If I could get the US prices here, I would build one as well.

 

rab2344.

Taken another stab at the X79 configuration, less featured MB, smaller OS drive, less $$ for the GPU,

 

GPU yet to be selected,  > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3nP66

 

Check BIOS rev when ordering, OK with rev F16 > http://www.gigabyte.....aspx?pid=4765#

Cooler size is OK.


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Guys thanks for all the help.  I have decided on everything except one question.  Would you go with a single GTX 770 4GB or Dual GTX 750 2 GB? 


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Hello rab2344

 

The GTX 750 does not support Sli, see specs here,  you have also said that you will only be using the one screen so a single good quality add on video card is adequate, it will also require lower power output from the PSU and so generate less heat inside the case, iammykyl is better placed to advise on the software requirements as in whether a 2GB or 4GB video card would be best but I can say that the 2GB GTX 770 will support up to 4 displays + it is 256-bit which will provide very good in depth video quality for business or gaming.


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Gday.

Agree with Phillpower2 with regards to SLI, always less stable than a single card, also, Photoshop does not support any Crossfire or SLI configuration.   You can have 2 cards in the system but not linked.   If they are configured as SLI for gaming, you would need to disable SLI for Photoshop to run.   

Had the builds been solely for work, I would have suggested a Quadro card but that would be no good for gaming.

I would use the GTX 770 with 4GB memory.  > http://www.tomshardw...myths,3694.html

Both build would be great for gaming, the X79  would be much better for your work.

The bottleneck in both systems, (for work) will be the I/O sub-stream, hence the need for multiple HDDs.

 

Do you need any build Tutorial/help or the commissioning/testing of the system?


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