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Hello. Can someone tell me whats the problem when my gpu doesnt turn on when i turn on the cpu?

After installing the parts i switch on my cpu, fans, and my external HDD works when i plug it in. Things thats doesnt work is keyboard. When i remove the RAM and run the cpu again I cant hear any beep sound. graphics card doesnt turn on. Its fan is not working and no display on my screen, but it gets warm when i left CPU running for a minute or two

I havent installed the BIOS yet, but still i should be able to see some text on screen right?

 

Do i need to install the BIOS to make some parts work? Im soo dumb at this.

 

GPU: AMD r9 270x

Processor: 6300

motherboard: MSI 970A-G43


Edited by ImsoNoob, 31 January 2015 - 02:29 AM.

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anyone?


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:welcome:   ImsoNoob,

 

Can you post the brand and model name or number for the PSU (power supply unit) and the same for your Ram.

 

If you are using the USB type keyboard try the wired PS/2 type or suitable adapters as pictured in the attachment below.

 

Leave the external HDD disconnected from the MB while you are troubleshooting.

 

Your MB may not have an onboard speaker and be the reason why you hear no error beeps with the Ram removed, invest in a plug in one like the one included below.

 

Have you connected the 6 pin PCI-E power connector/s from the PSU to the video card.

 

Some info for you so as to avoid confusion, CPU = central processing Unit or processor for short and it does not refer to the computer in general.

 

Motherboards come with a version of appropriate BIOS pre-installed on the BIOS chip and so do not require you to do anything other than to configure the boot sequence so that an OS can be installed.

 

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My CPU is

AMD FX 6300 6-core black edition 3.5GHz AM3+

 

Motherboard is

MSI 970A-G43 AM3+

 

HDD is

Seagate Barracuda HDD Internal Bare Drive 1TB 720 RPM

 

I dont have an SSD

 

PSU is

Corsair CX Series 600 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V/EPS12V 552 Power Supply CX600M

 

 

GPU is

Gigabyte Radeon R9 270x 4096MB GDDR5 OC version

 

RAM is

Corsair 8G DDR3 1600MHz vengeance low profile

 

Keyboard is a USB type.

I tripple check the connection of 6 pin connectors from PSU to my GPU. and it is connected.

 

 

 

 

I wasnt wearing any ground strap cause the video i was following wasnt too

 

Here is the video i was following.

 

Here is the image of my build

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Here you can see the CPU fan is working so as the casing fan but not the GPU fans

 

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Edited by ImsoNoob, 02 February 2015 - 06:45 AM.

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Gday.

While Phillpower2 busy, I will do a bit of sticky beaking.

 

The Tutorial you followed is pretty good.      You may have a electrical short, a faulty connection or a DOA part.   The best way to troubleshoot the problem is from the beginning with a bare bones setup.   This is a logical progressive method, rather than trying this and then that.

 

Always turn off the PSU when working on the rig and take anti static measures by now and again touching a bare metal part of the case.

Disconnect everytthing that is connected to the case.

Disconnect all cables to the MB.

Remove the video card, then remove the MB.,

Put the MB box close to the side of the open case, set the MB on the box.   It should be the same as after instilling the RAM in the tutorial you have used.

 

Check that the CPU fan plug is connected to the CPU fan socket on the MB, see page 22 MB manual, CPUFAN.

You only have a single stick of RAM, so make sure it is installed in DIMM #1, (closest to the CPU) not in DIMM #2.    MB manual page #6.

Connect the 24 pin and the 8 pin power cables from the PSU, MB manual page #14.

Plug in the PSU and switch it on at the back.

Go to MB manual page #23. see JFP1, header, (closest to the edge of the board) on the back row, pins #6 and #8 control the case power on button. 

With the tip of a small screwdriver, briefly short out the 2 pins

Video is an example, take no notice of wiring colours, 

 

The PSU and CPU fans should spin up, if yes, let them run for one minute then switch off the PSU.

 

Please post results

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gday.

While Phillpower2 busy, I will do a bit of sticky beaking.

 

The Tutorial you followed is pretty good.      You may have a electrical short, a faulty connection or a DOA part.   The best way to troubleshoot the problem is from the beginning with a bare bones setup.   This is a logical progressive method, rather than trying this and then that.

 

Always turn off the PSU when working on the rig and take anti static measures by now and again touching a bare metal part of the case.

Disconnect everytthing that is connected to the case.

Disconnect all cables to the MB.

Remove the video card, then remove the MB.,

Put the MB box close to the side of the open case, set the MB on the box.   It should be the same as after instilling the RAM in the tutorial you have used.

 

Check that the CPU fan plug is connected to the CPU fan socket on the MB, see page 22 MB manual, CPUFAN.

You only have a single stick of RAM, so make sure it is installed in DIMM #1, (closest to the CPU) not in DIMM #2.    MB manual page #6.

Connect the 24 pin and the 8 pin power cables from the PSU, MB manual page #14.

Plug in the PSU and switch it on at the back.

Go to MB manual page #23. see JFP1, header, (closest to the edge of the board) on the back row, pins #6 and #8 control the case power on button. 

With the tip of a small screwdriver, briefly short out the 2 pins

Video is an example, take no notice of wiring colours, 

 

The PSU and CPU fans should spin up, if yes, let them run for one minute then switch off the PSU.

 

Please post results

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Still the same. CPU fans does work. I left it running for 2 or more minutes like you said. I even tried resetting the CMOS. But to no luck. BTW is it normal that the inside of the GPU smells burnt?

 

Could this also be that my GPU is 3.0 PCI-E slot and my MOBO is only 2 PCIe 2.0 x16 slots?


Edited by ImsoNoob, 03 February 2015 - 10:18 AM.

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Thanks for the additional support iammykyl  :thumbsup:

 

Only thing that I can add to the above guidance of iammykyl is to try the other PCI-E slot on the MB.

 

Nothing should have a burned smell so that could be an indication of what the problem is.

 

PCI-E 3.0 is backwards compatible with most if not all PCI-E 2.0 MBs and only tends to be a problem with the earliest PCI-E 1.0 MBs.


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Your welcome Phillpower.

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Are you now troubleshooting with the MB outside of the Case?

If you still don't get a signal on the monitor with the video card in the second slot??   you need to determine if the issue is with the card or the MB slot.

A. Try any known working PCI-E video card in the PCI-E slots. if it works, return the card.

B. Contact the seller of the card to get a RMA number so you can return it as a DOA part and get a replacement.


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Your welcome Phillpower.

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Are you now troubleshooting with the MB outside of the Case?

If you still don't get a signal on the monitor with the video card in the second slot??   you need to determine if the issue is with the card or the MB slot.

A. Try any known working PCI-E video card in the PCI-E slots. if it works, return the card.

B. Contact the seller of the card to get a RMA number so you can return it as a DOA part and get a replacement.

 

I tried using old GPU. Its fan works but still didnt have a POST

 

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Could this be a faulty MOBO?


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Gday.

Your pic shows testing the old GPU with the MB installed in the case, so cannot say if it is a faulty MB.

 

Did you do a bare bones set up and test as per the instructions in reply #5??

Which slots have RAM installed?


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Gday.

Your pic shows testing the old GPU with the MB installed in the case, so cannot say if it is a faulty MB.

 

Did you do a bare bones set up and test as per the instructions in reply #5??

Which slots have RAM installed?

 

Tried putting the RAM to the first slot closest to CPU. still same  no post


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Thanks for the information about the RAM.

You still have not answered the question about doing a Bare Bones Test. 

 

Did you take the MB out of the case? put it on the MB box? connect to the PSU then test? (instruction in reply #5.)

 

Unless you do that test, it is not possible to tell which part is broken, or if you have a electrical short. 


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Thanks for the information about the RAM.

You still have not answered the question about doing a Bare Bones Test. 

 

Did you take the MB out of the case? put it on the MB box? connect to the PSU then test? (instruction in reply #5.)

 

Unless you do that test, it is not possible to tell which part is broken, or if you have a electrical short. 

 

Yes yes, I did that. I followed your instructions carefully. I remove the MOBO and put it on top of its box. Then connect the cables of the parts that is most important.

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Still same output. No post.

 

I dont have an image of this but I tried putting the older GPU on it still same.

 

If i replace the MOBO with intel support and CPU with intel i5 will it support my GPU that is AMD base?


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Yes yes, I did that. I followed your instructions carefully.   tried putting the older GPU on it still same.

It does look like you have a defective MB.  Most likely a PCI-E slot, but there is a remote chance of a faulty CPU. 

 

 

If i replace the MOBO with intel support and CPU with intel i5 will it support my GPU that is AMD base?

First, your video card will run on an Intel or AMD motherboard.

 

There is nothing wrong with using AMD MB and CPU,   Why would you want to change to an Intel build?

 

Follow your manuals instructions to remove the cooler and CPU from the MB.   Put the CPU into the packing it came in, put in a safe place for using later.

Contact the shop that sold you the MB and ask for a RMA, (return to Merchant Authority) as your MB does not work.

Make sure to reinstall the protective cap that covered the MB socket, before shipping the board back. 


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Yes yes, I did that. I followed your instructions carefully.   tried putting the older GPU on it still same.

It does look like you have a defective MB.  Most likely a PCI-E slot, but there is a remote chance of a faulty CPU. 


 

 

If i replace the MOBO with intel support and CPU with intel i5 will it support my GPU that is AMD base?

First, your video card will run on an Intel or AMD motherboard.

 

There is nothing wrong with using AMD MB and CPU,   Why would you want to change to an Intel build?

 

Follow your manuals instructions to remove the cooler and CPU from the MB.   Put the CPU into the packing it came in, put in a safe place for using later.

Contact the shop that sold you the MB and ask for a RMA, (return to Merchant Authority) as your MB does not work.

Make sure to reinstall the protective cap that covered the MB socket, before shipping the board back. 

 

 

Ive mess up a lot this time. I notice that my CPU got a missing pin and the pin might be stuck on the MOBO socket. I suspect this happen when I tried to remove the heatsink but the CPU came off as well even if the lever is down(locked). Im afraid I void the warranty. If so I might as well buy a new MOBO. Do you have any suggestion as to what would be a good MOBO to use?

 

This are the images

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I thought Intel will be much easier to build but it will be costly than AMD. Plus I get really really nervous installing CPU. unlike Intel where its pinless I think I might be less nervous when installing it.


Edited by ImsoNoob, 06 February 2015 - 08:23 PM.

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