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Help with pc upgrade (Resolved)


Best Answer phillpower2 , 30 September 2015 - 09:54 AM

It will mean a step back to a Haswell i5 CPU and stock cooler + slower Ram, see Plan B here Go to the full post »


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johnny15

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Hello Everyone!

 

I am thinking of upgrading my computer for gaming purposes, (the availiable  budget is 550E)

I have a build in mind and thought that asking your opinion would be a wise choice!

So these are the things I want to buy :

 

CPU:Intel Core i5-4590 Box

Ram: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz CL9

Mainboard: Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3, or MSI Z97 Gaming 5 , MSI Z97 Gaming 3 

HDD: Sandisk Extreme PRO SSD 240GB

 

I'd like to keep the psu, my other 2 HDDS, and the GPU

What do you say? Do you have anything to suggest? ( Help with the motherboard if everything else is ok)

I appreciate your help and thanks for your time,

 

johnny15

 

 

PC SPECIFICATIONS

CPU : Intel Core Quad Q6600

Motherboard: IP35 PRO

RAM: 4GB Ram DDR2 Dual channel x400MHz

Graphics Card: ASUS GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB

PSU : Coolermaster 650W (I think)

Operating System: Windows 7 32Bit

Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 2032BW 20’’

HDD1 : Sata II 320GB Seagate

HDD2: 1ΤΒ Western Digital


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Why the Z97 with a Non-K CPU?

 

All your boards you've selected have USB 3.0. Your case.. What is it? It's not mentioned in your primary post. Also, can you link to your PSU?


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my case is this one : http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811133154

and the psu is:  ETASIS ET650 GAMING POWER SUPPLY 650W

I don't know I just serached and found that z97 would be the most suitable for Intel Core i5-4590.

If you  know anything better, feel free to tell me ! ;)

 

PS: Do you think i should consider buying an unlocked CPU?


Edited by johnny15, 22 September 2015 - 08:10 AM.

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Sorry, I would have responded yesterday. But school is a pain :-).

 

The chip you currently have, the 4590, won't overclock. The benenfits of Overclocking can be great, but can also damage your CPU lifespan. In addition, using "other coolers" not provided in the box will void your warranty, for both Intel AND AMD. Keep that in mind. I personally do not overclock. I've had my system for almost 2 years now, and still see no need.

 

Ultimately, it's up to you, and what you want to do. I cannot make that choice for you. Let me know you're choice on whether you wish to OC, or not.

 

PS: keep in mind, if you buy a "k" chip, you don't HAVE to Overclock it. You can still leave it at Stock Speeds/voltages.


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Sorry, I would have responded yesterday. But school is a pain :-).

 

 

 

It's ok I've been through that! I feel you :D

I think I'll stay with 4590 I don't want to try overclocking

and now I am thinking  which motherboard?

this one ? http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813130787

or this one http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157511

 

thanks for your time again..


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Neither or the above board will support 1866MHz RAM.

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157511

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813130787

 

A possible Board: http://uk.pcpartpick...tal1tyh97killer

Possible supporting RAM: http://uk.pcpartpick...312800cl9d8gbxl


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You think that it will be big difference if I buy a motherboard that doesnt support 1600+ ram

with a motherboard that does? Otherwise I might consider buying a better motherboard


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Nothing you will notice. You MIGHT see a small difference, in content creation, with Long clips... But for the standard gaming load, and/or daily "driver" use (eg; web browsing, word etc), you won't notice anything.

 

edit: I run 1600MHz, and with the 3770, and the GTX 760, I can get pretty decent Frames playing BF4 on High-Ultra @ 1080p. (I usually play High, as Ultra can dip my FPS to ~30).


Edited by Alan1998, 23 September 2015 - 06:00 PM.

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Really man, your help cleared my mind!

I think I'll get one of these

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128662

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813130787
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157511

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157510

and a 1600 Ram

 

PS: Should I trust Asrock? Or should I go for something else? what's your opinion?


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Edit by OP/


Edited by Alan1998, 25 September 2015 - 02:08 PM.

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I missed something, that iammykyl pointed out to me in a Private Message. I can't believe I missed this.

 

Your OS, it's 32 Bit. meaning your Operating System will NOT see 8GB of RAM. It will see only 4GB. This is true for all versions of Windows 7/8/8.1/10 x86 (or 32 Bit).

It would make upgrading more-or-less useless to you.

 

He is also of the opinion ASRock is better suited as a MOBO.

 

Suitable MB: http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

 

Better (M.2 slot): http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

 

http://www.outletpc....SSD SATA Drives

 

Edit: iammykyl is a lot more familiar with this then I am :-). He knows about 8000^99% more then me as well.


Edited by iammykyl, 25 September 2015 - 04:47 PM.

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Ah sorry my mistake I will format, my pc and install win 7 64bit, so It's ok xD

I am afraid of trusting Asrock, because I live in Greece and I might won't be able to replace it if anything goes wrong, ... So I wonder H97 or  Asrock ?? (Tha's the last question I promise ;))

I'll take the samsung ssd! :D


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H97 could also be a good choice as well. Just you won't be able to Overclock it, that's all. I can't really speak on behalf of (Any) company to be honest. iammkyl seems to trust them a lot though.

If I may pose a question to you, why would you not be able to return an DOA board in Greece? I would think if you received a damaged product (At all) you should be able to return it?


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I haven't sent anything yet, But I live at an island far from Athens, I have to send the DOA products in Athens ( to the place I bought the product ) and then, wait from them to send the products to the company.. e.g ASUS in Czech Republic,

sometimes it takes too much time and that's a thing I'd like to avoid.


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Excuse the interjection folks  :)

 

Couple of points to mention;

 

The stock i5 4590 is only compatible with Ram up to 1600MHz, see here

 

the psu is:  ETASIS ET650 GAMING POWER SUPPLY 650W

 

 

How old is this PSU?

 

Regarding the Etasis brand itself, not sure if they are made any more as I could find no up to date info on them, see my canned text below;

 

Please note that there is one thing that is possibly worse than using a known poor quality brand of PSU and that is using one that is unheard of, for brands of PSU to trust and brands to avoid please refer to the links in my sig.

 

 

 

 I will format, my pc and install win 7 64bit, so It's ok xD

 

 

Also see canned text below;

 

Just a cautionary note, unless your OS disk is the full retail edition you cannot use it with a new MB as an OEM disk is tied to the original MB it was paired with, to use an OEM disk with a new MB is software piracy and therefore illegal.
 
Exceptions to the above are 1: If your MB is replaced under warranty and 2: If your MB is replaced out of warranty with an alternative type but same brand due to the original model no longer being available, an upgraded MB however will require the purchase of a new OS licence. 
 
If you have a full retail disk and a product key that is not in use on another computer the OEM restriction/s is/are not the same.
 

 

 


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