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What do I need to make my PC as fast as possible


Best Answer iammykyl , 20 February 2016 - 07:28 AM

Gday hamadm.Sorry for the delay of my reply.   Trying to find a way to get the best prices.    The list of parts is without a video card as the recommended is a Workstation one.... Go to the full post »


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Hello, 

 

I want to know what is the best RAM, CPU, SSD, my motherboard can take, I like coarsair products, so if you can give me the model numbers, that'll be great.  My OS is windows 10 pro 32-bit.

 

This is my system specs: https://goo.gl/ZVIYoK Item               Details

 
Windows:            Windows Version 6.2 (Build 9200)
Internet Explorer:  9.11.10240.16384
Memory (RAM):       2048 MB
CPU Info:           AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+
CPU Speed:          2220.8 MHz
Sound Card:         Speakers (VIA HD Audio) | 
HD Audio HDMI out (VIA HD Audio | 
SPDIF Interface (TX1) (VIA HD A | 
 
Display Adapters:   AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series | AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series | AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series | AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series | AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series | AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Monitors:           1x; Generic PnP Monitor | 
Screen Resolution:  1920 X 1080 - 32 bit
Network:            Network Present
Network Adapters:   Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller | TAP-Windows Adapter V9
CD / DVD Drives:    1x (E: | ) E: HL-DT-STDVDRAM GH24NSC0
Ports:              COM Ports NOT Present. LPT Port NOT Present. 
Mouse:              5 Button Wheel Mouse Present
Hard Disks:         C:  465.8GB | G:  931.5GB | H:  465.8GB
Hard Disks - Free:  C:  310.6GB | G:  485.8GB | H:  220.8GB
USB Controllers:    7 host controllers.
Firewire (1394):    Not Detected
Manufacturer *:     American Megatrends Inc.
Product Make *:     System Product Name
AC Power Status:    OnLine
BIOS Info:          |  |
Time Zone:          Arab Standard Time
Battery Status:     No Battery
Motherboard *:      ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A78-E
IP Address:         192.168.15.2 | 169.254.123.136 | 
MAC Address:        00-24-8C-A4-30-AF
Host Name:          HAMAD
SM BIOS:            2603   
 

 

Thank you so much


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:welcome: hamadm.

 

Can you tell us what the computer would mainly be used for?

My OS is windows 10 pro 32-bit.

Unfortunately a 32 bit version of any Windows OS will limit the amount of Memory that can be addressed, (used) to 4GB.  You would need to be running a 64 bit version to be able to use more.

 

This is your MB specs, > https://www.asus.com...specifications/

These are the compatible CPUs > https://www.asus.com...E/HelpDesk_CPU/

The fastest is a 4 core (use for gaming) > http://www.cpu-world...ck Edition.html

The most powerful is a 6 core, slightly lower speed, (use for workstation/video/photo editing, > http://www.cpu-world...0ZFBGRBOX).html

 

With regards the SSD, "best" depends on what you want to use it for.   If it for the Boot drive, Then the market leader, overall, is a Samsung compatible with your MB, > http://www.samsung.c...evo/MZ-75E500BW

If you did install one as the Boot drive. you would need to clone you existing OS drive, or do a fresh install of Windows. 


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Hi, thank you for the answer, i want to dual boot with a 64-bit linux, so what's the specs limit for the ram, should i look at this info from the MB page ( 4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR2 1300(O.C.)/1200(O.C.)/1066/800/667 ECC,Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

Dual Channel memory architecture)?

 

and can i use any ssd? cani use this: 

Corsair Neutron XT CSSD-N240GBXTB 2.5" 240GB SATA III?
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Also, the cpu heatsink is blocking 2 slots, is there a low-profile rams for my MB?


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to be honest in my opinion your better off putting the money towards a new complete system.

 

eg. there's no point in getting the fastest ssd possible because your motherboard is unable to fully support it's capabilities because of it's sata 2 ports (3Gbs) so is only capable of about 250MBs speeds and not the 500+ Mbs of fast ssd's.

 

same thing really for the cpu, there are cheaper faster cpu's available for a newer system than the fastest you can get for that older system.

 

:popcorn:


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to be honest in my opinion your better off putting the money towards a new complete system.

 

eg. there's no point in getting the fastest ssd possible because your motherboard is unable to fully support it's capabilities because of it's sata 2 ports (3Gbs) so is only capable of about 250MBs speeds and not the 500+ Mbs of fast ssd's.

 

same thing really for the cpu, there are cheaper faster cpu's available for a newer system than the fastest you can get for that older system.

 

:popcorn:

true, i think i'm missing a lot, like usb3, sata3 and many things i guess. do you know any good pre-built pc, i need it for normal use, no gaming, it's better if it's compact and quite but has decent specs in the same time and not very expensive, because maybe i'm going to learn autodesk inventor and sketchbook pro.

 

and what's better overall performance intel or amd, i tried intel once.

 

also is it worth it to convert to mac?

 

Thank you


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Gday hamadm.

I agree with terry1966, A new build is the way to go.

Intel gives the better performance but more expensive than AMD (MB/CPU)

Please give us your budget so we know what class of computer to recommend.

From which country would you purchase?   


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Gday to you iammykyl,

My budget is 1000-USD1500,I really would like to buy from US, but it'll be cheaper to me to buy from Saudi Arabia, because of the shipping weight.

And i really would like to use Linux, buy am not familiar with it, is it really that hard to use? I feel it's much faster and cleaner than Windows, but in Windows it's straight forward to install/uninstall.

I think Mac is built on unix/linux, but I can see that it's much easier, but costly.


Edited by hamadm, 20 February 2016 - 06:59 AM.

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Thanks for the info.

I only use Linux for troubleshooting, (Data recovery) in Windows, It is not hard to use, you get a Desktop like windows. I will leave terry to answer your questions.   I do believe if you are going to use autodesk inventor, no support from Linux, and sketchbook pro, limited support. 

 

With you planned usage, a workstation configuration would be suitable.   I will spec one later tonight..   It may be feasible to order light components MB/CPU, through Amazon, some do free intonation shipping.

 

https://knowledge.au...6-products.html

http://usa.autodesk....manuf=all&opt=0


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And i really would like to use Linux, buy am not familiar with it, is it really that hard to use? I feel it's much faster and cleaner than Windows, but in Windows it's straight forward to install/uninstall.

no linux really isn't that hard to use, in fact it's all i use, but in your case because of the programs your planning on using, eg. autodesk inventor then you really want to stick to using a windows os for windows only programs, then if you really want to use linux too you can install it along side your windows os so you have a dual boot system that can boot into either os of your choice on pc start up.

 

personally i use opensuse :- https://www.opensuse.org/#

guide :- http://opensuse-guide.org/

 

another linux distro i'd recommend is mint. :- http://www.linuxmint.com/

 

you can start trying/testing out linux now if you like on your current pc either with live cd's or by doing a full dual boot install.

there are lots of different distro's out there, eg :- http://distrowatch.com/

in fact the choice can be a bit overwhelming but in general for most people i'd recommend sticking to one of the listed ones here to start with. :- http://www.techradar...commend-1090058

 

:popcorn:


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I like this topic. I use linux almost exclusively. (LinuX Mint, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Kali, Debian). I use windows for iTunes and some video/DVD codecs. Otherwise there is WINE,

"Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX, & BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop."

WineHq : http://r.duckduckgo....www.winehq.org/

Autodesk Inventor won't work on wine but there are alternatives that work well in Linux : http://alternativeto...?platform=linux .

Get Gparted. (and DBan (you might not need it but good to have))

boot gparted to create a windows partition, ntfs. and linux partitions (eg. : (root) /, boot, swap area, home) in whatever sizes recommended.

install windows first. install linux.


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Gday hamadm.

Sorry for the delay of my reply.   Trying to find a way to get the best prices.    The list of parts is without a video card as the recommended is a Workstation one.   

The integrated graphics will be OK for everyday use, browsing/office/video streaming, A Quadro/Firepro can be added later.

Build to consider, > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QQhzBm

 

Except for the optical drive, PSU and case, the other items are light, so I suggest researching Amazon, Go to, > http://www.amazon.com/International-Shipping-Direct/b?node=230659011 

you will need to register and give a delivery address before you can get the shipping costs.

These items buy local, if you think the prices OK. 

PSU, can't see a price. > http://www.softland....product_id=2336

Case, > https://gear-up.me/c...aming-case.html

 

Did some looking here, > http://sa.pricena.co...i-arabia-692251


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And i really would like to use Linux, buy am not familiar with it, is it really that hard to use? I feel it's much faster and cleaner than Windows, but in Windows it's straight forward to install/uninstall.

no linux really isn't that hard to use, in fact it's all i use, but in your case because of the programs your planning on using, eg. autodesk inventor then you really want to stick to using a windows os for windows only programs, then if you really want to use linux too you can install it along side your windows os so you have a dual boot system that can boot into either os of your choice on pc start up.

 

personally i use opensuse :- https://www.opensuse.org/#

guide :- http://opensuse-guide.org/

 

another linux distro i'd recommend is mint. :- http://www.linuxmint.com/

 

you can start trying/testing out linux now if you like on your current pc either with live cd's or by doing a full dual boot install.

there are lots of different distro's out there, eg :- http://distrowatch.com/

in fact the choice can be a bit overwhelming but in general for most people i'd recommend sticking to one of the listed ones here to start with. :- http://www.techradar...commend-1090058

 

:popcorn:

 

Thank you so much terry1966


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I like this topic. I use linux almost exclusively. (LinuX Mint, Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Kali, Debian). I use windows for iTunes and some video/DVD codecs. Otherwise there is WINE,

"Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX, & BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop."

WineHq : http://r.duckduckgo....www.winehq.org/

Autodesk Inventor won't work on wine but there are alternatives that work well in Linux : http://alternativeto...?platform=linux .

Get Gparted. (and DBan (you might not need it but good to have))

boot gparted to create a windows partition, ntfs. and linux partitions (eg. : (root) /, boot, swap area, home) in whatever sizes recommended.

install windows first. install linux.

Thank you so much tdokl


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Gday hamadm.

Sorry for the delay of my reply.   Trying to find a way to get the best prices.    The list of parts is without a video card as the recommended is a Workstation one.   

The integrated graphics will be OK for everyday use, browsing/office/video streaming, A Quadro/Firepro can be added later.

Build to consider, > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QQhzBm

 

Except for the optical drive, PSU and case, the other items are light, so I suggest researching Amazon, Go to, > http://www.amazon.com/International-Shipping-Direct/b?node=230659011 

you will need to register and give a delivery address before you can get the shipping costs.

These items buy local, if you think the prices OK. 

PSU, can't see a price. > http://www.softland....product_id=2336

Case, > https://gear-up.me/c...aming-case.html

 

Did some looking here, > http://sa.pricena.co...i-arabia-692251

Thank you so much  iammykyl


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