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Playing DVDs on Windows XP Computer (Resolved).


Best Answer Channeal , 17 January 2017 - 01:02 PM

Hello there, Just to let you know that Terry extremely kindly sent me the old DVD writer with an IDE connector which he found in an old PC. This afternoon, I successfully managed to install it... Go to the full post »


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Oh dear! We can't have all you Geeks getting sick! :(

Hope you too feel better very soon, Freebooter.
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Thank you very much Channeal.


Edited by FreeBooter, 29 November 2016 - 10:03 AM.

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Thank you both, will hopefully be back up to speed in a couple more days.


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hi channeal, only just read phils pm, been away from my pc for a while.

 

linux is a bit different than windows and usually doesn't include the needed software by default to play dvd's and so you may minimally need to install an extra piece of software called libdvdcss2.

 

can you link to the different versions of linux your using so i can download and test them myself to see if they play dvd's by default or what steps you may need to take to get them to work and play a dvd.

 

as to dualbooting then the only extra resources/strain put on the hardware is the extra bit of storage space taken up on the hard drive by the install itself.

when you boot into windows then all the ram, cpu etc. etc. is used only by the windows os and vice versa the operating systems do not run side by side and cause problems like slowing things down because only one or the other is loaded and uses the pc's hardware.

 

must admit though after a quick skim through the topic it does sound like the dvd drives may be failing though and why you're having problems in windows too, personally the 2 things i have needed to replace most because of failures are hard drives and cd/dvd drives.

 

found this link explaining mints decision to no longer include dvd playback by default and how you go about installing the needed multimedia codecs easily yourself. :- http://www.omgubuntu...ltimedia-codecs

 

 

Installing them via Menu>Sound and Video>Install Multimedia Codecs

 

you will probably need to do this every time you run a live os because usually nothing gets permanently saved when running a live os, but if you actually do decide to install the os and run a dual boot then you will only need to do this the once.

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 29 November 2016 - 10:31 PM.

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Apologies for the delay in replying, Terry. It has been a bit of a stressful time here the past few days! :(

 

Thanks for your reply and for all the info about Linux.

 

I am not too bothered about getting the DVD player to work on Linux at the moment. (I only mentioned the message it gave me there because Phill asked me if I had tried to play a DVD on Linux). My main priority here at the moment is to attempt to get the DVD player working on Windows.

 

With regard to the general Linux thing, it would probably be best if I started a separate topic in the Linux forum when I get more time, to avoid going off topic here and to prevent any further confusion. (I will post a link to it here when I have created it).

 

I did have a bit of fun and games yesterday moving all my husband's mail from Outlook Express to Thunderbird so he can get used to using it with a view to moving to Linux. The problem is that he uses Yahoo Mail (like me, but I only use the web version) and he has over 20,000 emails left on the server! So, first of all I let Thunderbird download all the emails, then deleted them, then had various problems getting it to download anything! Eventually I went through all his emails on the web version and transferred them all (50 at a time) to 'Archive', so they will no longer download every time. I then deleted the address on Thunderbird and started all over again! Got it all sorted now and he is only left with the emails which were transfered from Outlook Express (plus any new ones), but I could have done without all that in the middle of an already extremely stressful week! :(

 

Phill, I really hope you are feeling better. You told me not to try resetting the BIOS yet, but is there anything else I can try? Am a bit stumped for ideas at the moment - and wondering if it would not just be easier to buy a new DVD player? (No hurry to reply though, if you are still feeling unwell).

 

Thank you both for your help.

 

Chris.

 

EDIT: I am almost doing myself out of buying that new (and much wanted) computer here, at least for the time being. The trouble with me though is that once I get the bit between my teeth and feel I might be able to learn something new (e.g. Linux etc) I just cannot leave it alone! :)


Edited by Channeal, 01 December 2016 - 06:57 AM.

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to be honest i think the drive as had it if vlc won't play your dvd's, because from my understanding on a windows machine vlc includes all the codecs needed to play dvd's leaving the problem to be hardware related in my opinion.

 

something to consider :- https://www.amazon.c...&node=430559031

i have one as a backup and to use with laptops that don't have a built in dvd drive.

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 02 December 2016 - 07:21 AM.

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Hi Folks,

 

I am not too bothered about getting the DVD player to work on Linux at the moment. (I only mentioned the message it gave me there because Phill asked me if I had tried to play a DVD on Linux). My main priority here at the moment is to attempt to get the DVD player working on Windows.

 

 

The idea of trying Linux was to see if either of the drives worked, if one or both did it would suggest a software/OS problem namely codecs or XP, if neither drive works in XP or Linux the issue is hardware related, trying Linux is more or less the confirmation of whether or not the drives have failed.

 

Phill, I really hope you are feeling better. You told me not to try resetting the BIOS yet, but is there anything else I can try? Am a bit stumped for ideas at the moment - and wondering if it would not just be easier to buy a new DVD player? (No hurry to reply though, if you are still feeling unwell).

 

 

Far better than I have been the past few days Chris and thank you for asking  :)

 

The both drives are identified in the BIOS which again suggest a hardware problem with the drives but if you are adamant that you want to try resetting the BIOS please make a note of the present boot settings etc first.

 

Thanks for helping out Terry, much appreciated  :thumbsup:


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Hello Phill,

 

Very pleased to hear that you are feeling a lot better. I hope you will soon be fully recovered and back to your normal self. :)

 

 

 

The both drives are identified in the BIOS which again suggest a hardware problem with the drives but if you are adamant that you want to try resetting the BIOS please make a note of the present boot settings etc first.

 

Definitely not in any way adamant! Was only going to try resetting the BIOS because you suggested it. It seems pretty clear to me though that the drive has just died of old age and that I need to get a new one!

 

 

Terry, thanks very much for the link to the external DVD drive. Whether I buy that or an internal one really depends on the future of this computer once we have bought a new one. It might go upstairs to be used by my husband (I haven't even asked him if he likes that idea yet, as he is not technically minded at all and does not really even have any idea what Linux is yet!). Or, it might go to somebody else, possibly to somebody who does not have a computer at all who might benefit from it. Maybe an internal DVD player might be a better alternative really.

 

Take care, both of you - and keep warm!

 

Chris.

 

PS Terry, I have now created my new topic in the Linux forum and it can be found here: -http://www.geekstogo...e/#entry2584508


Edited by Channeal, 04 December 2016 - 01:06 PM.

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Hello Phill,

 

Slight change of focus here for a moment.

 

Would like to get the Linux distros I am trying onto dvd, so decided to have another go at doing it on the notebook. I seem to be fated as far as DVD players go though, as all I got was an error message. :(

 

test1.jpg

 

Any idea what is going wrong there, please?

 

Chris.

 

EDIT Am I wrong to be trying a DVD RW? It seems as if I might be! :(


Edited by Channeal, 05 December 2016 - 02:33 PM.

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try a different burning software , ashampoo :- http://downloads.tec...ing-studio-2013or cdburnerxp :- http://downloads.tec...oads/cdburnerxp

 

the error you're getting is because the software doesn't know what laser power setting it should use to burn data to that disk, could be another sign the drive is going. more info here :- http://www.tech-faq....tion-error.html

 

curious but is there a reason why you want to put the linux iso's on dvd's instead of a usb stick? depending on the size of usb stick you may find it's possible to put a number of test linux os onto the 1 stick. eg :- https://www.pendrive...iboot-live-usb/

 

:popcorn:

 

 

EDIT Am I wrong to be trying a DVD RW? It seems as if I might be!

don't think it makes any difference if the disk is dvd r or dvd rw, just means r can be written to only once where as rw can be erased and written to multiply times of course the more times you write to it the more chance it will finally fail.


Edited by terry1966, 05 December 2016 - 05:46 PM.

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Thanks very much Terry.

 

I downloaded Ashampoo, but that wasn't working either. I found a firmware update for the CD/DVD player and then tried ImgBurn  again. It seemed to be proceeding further than before....... but then I got this message: -

 

test2.jpg

 

Thanks very much for the info about loading more than one ISO to a thumb drive. I had no idea you could do that! Will give it a go when I get a bit more time.

 

Chris.

 

 

 

 


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:spoton:

 

that's the same calibration problem, as the first error, so only thing left to do is try a different make of dvd's or call it a day with that drive.

 

i bought a pack of 50 dvd's one time and think i only got 3 dvd's that burned correctly out of the 50, yet the drive worked great for years after with a different brand/lot of dvd's, i just put it down to a bad batch of dvd's but it frustrated the [bleep] out of me at the time. :rofl:

 

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Hello Phil (and Terry if he is still around).
 
I thought it was time I updated you on the situation as far as my disastrous DVD drives goes!
 
As I could not get either the drives on my Dell desktop or my Sony Vaio notebook to burn a Linux DVD,  I decided that I had had enough and that I was going to replace the drives. I know I could have just bought an external drive - but I didn't want to do that. (Now I am getting a bit older, I seem to be getting a somewhat rebellious and go for what I want for a change, rather than always opting for the cheapest option!).
 
 
I guess the idea was kinda to do it all by myself and then come back to you guys and say 'what a clever girl I am, I did this all by myself!' Ha ha! Life is what happens while you are making other plans! :)
 
Anyway, off I went and ordered two replacement drives.......
 
I will begin with the notebook. I looked at videos etc and they seemed to be saying that DVD drives for all notebooks are usually the same size. So I went ahead and bought one. Turned out though that the little metal bits on the side and back did not fit exactly; there were very slight differences which stopped me being able to screw the drive securely into position. Also, the black front panel (or bezel) simply would not fit on the new drive. So the drive had to be sent back. 
 
Not to be daunted, I then managed to find a drive specifically for Sony Vaio. It arrived and was fitted in no time at all. It looks great and I managed to burn one of a Linux OS onto it without encountering a single error message. So a big success story there and I am very pleased.
 
Things were did not go anywhere near as smoothly with the Dell though. In the first place, I made a very bad mistake and ordered a drive with a SATA connector, rather than an IDE one. (Yes, I do know that I can be very stupid sometimes!).
 
I then managed to find a drive with an IDE connector and ordered it from pcupdate.co.uk last Friday. The first problem was that I somehow unintentally opted to pay almost £9 for delivery the next working day (which would have been Monday 19th) and then did not seem able to change it. After chiding myself for being stupid (yet again!) I told myself that at least I would be able to install it before Christmas.
 
Not long after ordering it, we were just on our way out of the house when the phone rang. It was an unknown number, but we listened and they didn't leave a message, so we just went on our way. 
 
Monday 19th came and went, but no DVD drive arrived. On Tuesday, I emailed them to ask what had happened to it. They replied to say that when the drive arrived from the warehouse, it had a SATA connector, rather that the IDE one that it had been advertised as having. Oh dear! :(
 
I was a bit annoyed with them really, as by then I had gone down with a really nasty cold virus and was virtually unable to talk, so I explained this in my email and asked them to answer by email. Their email however asked me to phone them! Not only that, they told me that their notes said that they had left a message on our answer phone the previous Friday explaining the situation, but we knew that they had not done this as we were standing by the phone when they rang and are certain that they did not leave any message!
 
The current situation is that they have told me that they have managed to source another DVD RW drive with an IDE connector from their supplier, this time made by Samsung/HGST. They have not however told me the model number, or how much it costs. So I am currently awaiting that information.
 
I wish you a very happy Christmas. Ours is going to be very quiet (apart from my coughing), although our son and his lovely Russian wife are going to stay with us for two or 3 nights so that will be nice. 
 
Chris

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depending on your motherboard you may find you have a spare sata port or 2 available and could have fitted the sata dvd in there anyway, you'd have needed a sata cable of course and maybe a molex to sata power cable adapter.  :D

 

well done on fitting a new hard drive in the laptop though, that's sometimes much more complicated in my opinion than fitting one into a desktop. :spoton:

 

hope you and yours have a great christmas and new year.  :cheers:

 

:popcorn:


Edited by terry1966, 22 December 2016 - 06:18 PM.

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Well you certainly like a challenge Chris  :yes:

 

terry has pretty much covered things so all thats left for me to do is wish you both a merry xmas and hopefully a prosperous new year as well  :thumbsup:


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