[-OCM770-]

hey crunch,

I did the overclocking and i found out you forgot a sixth option, nothing happens.. that's right i did it and nothing changed, i even tried reinstalling CPUCool, nothing....


-OCM770-

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That sucks, I even used it to overclock my son's Hp and a Gateway laptop that wasn't listed. It should work or return to it's oldself after rebooting. My MSI always has after over maxing it, since it came out of spare parts pile I have been very hard on it and it is indestructable! If you don't have it set to start with windows , it will be required to reset the higher clock speed everytime you turn on. Which is how you want it for testing. Then when confident it is staying cool enough BELOW 100F go ahead and change it to start with windows and it will remain in higher clocked speed. I think you have it figured out but I'm still here. YOU STILL MUST GET RID OF YOUR BUGS AND DEFRAG, AND BUY 512MB PC2700 RAM. Geeks claim it is best to run same RAM speed as your CPU FSB speed. PC2700 is 400 and your processor FSB is 400, keeping your 256mb PC3200 is fine it is just running at 400 anyway.
Try a different but very similar download called clockgen try here
http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php get ClockGen 1.0.5.0 to the left or older ClockGen 1.0.4.7 down low with these you get better dial indicators but have to select the PLL chip by its family, several will work but results vary so it's best to try many of the same family. (cypress) then first 4 numbers
Oterwise we have to change the jumper on your board that will allow BIOS to do it if it's not soldered.
I have two other ideas , I will check out and get back to you.

[crunch]

That sucks, I even used it to overclock my son's Hp and a Gateway laptop that wasn't listed. It should work or return to it's oldself after rebooting. My MSI always has after over maxing it, since it came out of spare parts pile I have been very hard on it and it is indestructable! If you don't have it set to start with windows , it will be required to reset the higher clock speed everytime you turn on. Which is how you want it for testing. Then when confident it is staying cool enough BELOW 100F go ahead and change it to start with windows and it will remain in higher clocked speed. I think you have it figured out but I'm still here. YOU STILL MUST GET RID OF YOUR BUGS AND DEFRAG, AND BUY 512MB PC2700 RAM. Geeks claim it is best to run same RAM speed as your CPU FSB speed. PC2700 is 400 and your processor FSB is 400, keeping your 256mb PC3200 is fine it is just running at 400 anyway.
Try a different but very similar download called clockgen try here
http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php get ClockGen 1.0.5.0 to the left or older ClockGen 1.0.4.7 down low with these you get better dial indicators but have to select the PLL chip by its family, several will work but results vary so it's best to try many of the same family. (cypress) then first 4 numbers
Oterwise we have to change the jumper on your board that will allow BIOS to do it if it's not soldered.
I have two other ideas , I will check out and get back to you.

[-OCM770-]

I shall explain my problem, i set the frequency to what you told me and when i click ok on the warning message, the screen blinks for a split second and nothing happens.

Can you tell me how to use Clockgen? Please... or even better, how to unlock my BIOS or where to get an unlocked working version.


-OCM770-

[crunch]

Just to let you know, I've been running up alot of dead-end streets, googleing your motherboard. you are aware that HP owns compaq and that board is in several models of PCs. I have found forums of owners that are very proud of them, to many having driver problems and some negative. Most comments are about how hard it is to find info on them. Most CPU claims have been from 2.56GHZ to 3.06GHz. Here's a copy/paste of a guy doing other tweaks ....................."
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skatea2301-09-2005, 01:48 AM
Hello!
I'm currently running a 2 year old computer. I'm beginning to realize just how cheap my MoBo (MS-6577) is. I think my processor (P4 2.53 GHz) is "fine" and my nVidia GeForce 440 MX 128 MB does "alright." (Also I just OC'd the graphics card from 250 MHz / 300 MHz to 310 MHz / 460 MHz so it works even better). And I've got 512 MB PC2100 RAM.

So here's where I need advice...
I basically want to increase the performance without totally upgrading my system. Should I:

1) Get more PC2100 RAM
2) Get a better graphics card
3) Get a better MoBo that can support better RAM and then get better RAM.


Oh and in general can one use PC2100 and say PC3200 on the same board at once (assuming both are supported)? I'd hate to just toss my 512 MB stick.

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vegasgmc01-09-2005, 12:02 PM
I would replace the board. That leaves you open for better upgrades down the road. There is a good chance that with a new board you can run your PC2100 memory at 2700 and you can probably OC your processor. Also some of the MX440's were 8x. If yours is it will give you better performance in a board with 8x AGP.
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So, OCM770, I see "skate A23 was clocking something there. I have found that all rev numbers used same north and south bridge Intel chips, Phionix BIOS 6.0PG chips, and realtek 8110 LAN IC chips, and all used Winbond W83627 monitor IC chips, but a chip below the clocking chip changed from NEC to VIA, and the Clocking chip information has only appeared once as "cypress cy28349" . I now question the consistancy of that chip, if you could get info off it for "CPUCOOL" to work. It is just to the right of the top one of the three white PCI slots. Since that cypress number is not mentioned specifically in "CLOCKGEN", they recommend doing it by the chip family OR messing the binary value and or Hex value, which is explained in their download but I think getting tooo complicated. From researching your CPU it is a very good overclocker. Only bios illustrations have shown it in grey for CPU. Looks like "F1" is the way in your BIOS explore there for a burn in feature to increase 5%, should be in a file in advanced file, of BIOS. Does your BIOS start out with .... MAIN,ADVANCED,BOOT,EXIT .... across the top left to right? As just four options to have dropdowns from after tabbing left to right? Or is first screen in BIOS a long list of TWO columns vertically of many options to enter into for more choices?? Also found this http://h10025.www1.h...cname=c00211787

[-OCM770-]

Yes, my cypress chip is cy28349, i checked it by looking on the MOBO and my BIOS is the first way you described it: on the top it says MAIN ADVANCED BOOT EXIT and under advanced the processor options are greyed out, and i had alreayd founf that hp motherboard link but it lists it as v4 mine is v4.1 although i guess it's the same thing..... so can i unlock the BIOS?

WAIT!! that is NOT my motherboard, my motherboard does NOT have an AGP slot, only three PCI slots, and HP doesn't list MS-6577 v4.1 so who knows whats going on....


-OCM770-

[crunch]

I'm still googling. In the mean time you really need RAM and PC2700 is the highest speed it can utilize. This thread is getting very long, unfortunatly I'm beginning to think your board can't be over clocked but your processor can. Do you have a manual on setting up your BIOS? Why doesn't CPUCOOL work when it has your IC chip? There are two jumpers on the motherboard, one for clearing the BIOS and other for clearing the BIOS password to allow you to reset BIOS. The instructions for using them are in the manuals I've downloaded. Never says that will unlock BUS Speed or multiplier. But is what I would try next. If you haven't messed with BIOS before, go through every item you can open and (photograph, videotape, or write down) all setting as they are so you can put everything back if needed. Usually clearing BIOS (CMOS) doesn't effect much and you still have to manually change whatever you want anyway. In your BIOS (F1) under advanced > Chipset configuration> Is there a burn in mode? if so, enable it, change from default to +3%. Meanwhile I'm still looking. ALSO------------------THIS>>>>>>>>..
TRY THAT "JPWD1" jumper from the link instructions from HP, might be the one. Starts with this..................................
The BIOS password protects the BIOS from undesired changes. If password checking is enabled, and you need to enable it, use the following steps:
Turn off the PC and unplug the power cord.
Remove the JPWD1 jumper cap.............etc.

Edited by crunch, 03 November 2006 - 02:27 PM.

[-OCM770-]

There is no "chipset configuration" in my BIOS settings under advanced nor under any other category. I looked inside my PC and wrote down the Cypress chip number it is: cy28349b0c I am not sure if the last three characters affect it or not you tell me. and by looking at the picture of the motherboard from the HP website which i already said is not my motherboard, well on the picture it shows a phoenix BIOS chip, i can't find that on mine, maybe it's because of the extremely sloppy wiring, i guess it is but the closest thing i found was a squared winbound chip, is this my BIOS? and i shall try removing JWPD 1 jumper and see what happens, i guess it won't hurt trying.

Will do and get back to you soon.


-OCM770-

[-OCM770-]

Sorry for the delay it's been raining hard lately and i'm on 56kbps, stupid phone company

Anyway, i removed the jumper and nothing happened except a notification saying "password removed by jumper!" nothing else, BIOS is still locked, and there is no "burn in mode" in the BIOS, although when i updated the BIOS there was a new option called "power in WOL" or something like that, what is it?

-OCM770-, i await your reply.

[crunch]

WOL is awake (turn on) on LAN, (your DSL) connection if you have DSL or often modem. When enabled your PC will turn on when there is an incoming message. Very nice IF you want to access your own computer when you are away from home. BTW, Did you notice in the other forum I pasted here that the owner had OCed his graphics and recieved a reply stateing if he changed motherboard he could OC his processor. I've seen several forums with guys running 3 giggers but not saying they were able to overclock. Which is a shame they had to buy a 3.06CPU when a "northwood" is such a great overclocker when in boards that over clock. Very, Very few boards have no overclocking what-so-ever. Don't give up yet, you certainly will enjoy the benifit of more RAM. And lets keep looking.
CPUCOOL should have worked with your Cypress chip, your BIOS chip is on the lower right of the board with chrome sticker on it, the winbond chip you saw on left of PCI slots is for monitoring and not your cypress cpu clock which is just right of PCI slots.

[-OCM770-]

Oh well, if i can't overclock my machine i can't say i didn't try and i also can't say i tried it by myself, you've helped me a lot and i appreciate that, but if overclocking just isn't possible then i'll quit trying, I'm thinking of buying a notebook, an HP dv2000t series, pretty nice notebooks hp has

I appreciate all your help crunch, you have been of great help to me and you've also tought me what i suspected, my machine sucks



Thanks , -OCM770-

Edited by -OCM770-, 05 November 2006 - 01:39 PM.

[crunch]

YOUR machine doesn't suck, More than half PC owners DO NOT have 2.6GHz 400 BUS 512 cache CPUs (yours ROCKS), RAM would help alot, That fast of a processor can't go anywhere with that little RAM. I recommend 400 speed RAM PC2700 512mb. And it's all peeing in the wind with 56k dialup.(DSL WILL BLOW YOUR MIND) Give me your board, CPU, another 512 RAM, and 512 DSL AND I"LL kick behinds on PCPITSTOP with Total scores over 1600 after cleaning,defrag, setting ie cache and browser. and much higher CPU and RAM scores too. There's nothing it (your's) can't do! My beast is a duo processor Intel 865PERL with 3.2GHz server 2gig PC3200 ECC RAM. 2 320 gig SATA ultradrives. All it's good for is bragging, unless Walmart calls me up someday and wants a new mainframe.

Edited by crunch, 07 November 2006 - 12:19 AM.