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Red sceen of death....


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james_8970

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Anyone know anything about this? Apperently it was dropped in beta versions of Vista, well for some reason I'm getting them.

Got a number of issues right now and I'm trying to get some RMA numbers, but anyone know anything out these Red screens of death, because for all I know I shouldn't be getting them at all - because well, they are nonexistent.

I can assure you its not the BSOD, got it a number of times lately (bad stick of ram), something new to explore I guess.....
Anyone have any information regarding I'd really appreciate it.
James

Edited by james_8970, 23 June 2007 - 03:58 PM.

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Red Screens of Death were possible in Windows 95, 98 and ME by changing appropriate options in a system file so you could have had a purple screen of death.

From the Wiki:

The Red Screen of Death (abbreviated RSOD, sometimes called "Red Screen of Doom") is a nickname for the error message which existed in some beta versions of Microsoft's latest operating system, Windows Vista. It was dropped in Beta 1 (Build 5112) of Windows Vista. It can also be found (but rarely) in versions of Microsoft's Windows 98 operating system. The red screen of death also appeared in builds of Codename "Memphis". There is no RSOD in the official (current) release of Windows Vista.[citation needed]

The Red Screen of Death appeared when boot loader errors occurred. Windows Vista continues to have blue screens for other types of errors.


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But I'm in vista and havn't changed anything in the registry. This is an actual error I'm getting that makes no sense because it shouldn't exist, unless I got some new unheard of "virus" that changed the registry to mess with your head. I don't think this is the case. Kinda confused about my computer right now, speed fan is reporting 1.09V on the 12V rails, think I'm going to go and buy a PSU tester because I think it's going....that and my GPU is clocked down 300MHz on the core and memory.
Read that article already, this is an actual error that I'm getting, I'm not fooling around with the registry either or anything else for that matter at the moment, kinda scared to even boot it, don't want to risk 2500$ in equipment. Though I don't want to have to buy a PSU to rule one out either.....
James

Edited by james_8970, 23 June 2007 - 04:15 PM.

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Bad memory has been known to corrupt an os. Please remove or replace known defective hardware before trying to do a repair.

Here is a tutorial on how to run Vista repair process: http://www.bleepingc...utorial148.html
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I'm thinking I'm getting this because of the graphics card being severely underpowered as I have gotten the message twice while playing a game (company of heros). If it was a BSoD, I wouldn't be so confused, just was confused about the fact of it being red as it was only in the beta of vista and then later removed. For that reason still confuses me.
Will try the recovery console after I convince both OCZ and Silverstone for RMA number then of course get the new products back. No point on trying it while I still have a bad hardware.
Like what are the chances of getting both a defective stick of RAM and and bad high end PSU, it was 250$ so I'm wasn't by any means c heaping out, which is further frustrating.
James

Edited by james_8970, 24 June 2007 - 05:21 PM.

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for memory: use memtest With its results you should be able to warranty the memory if its found defective.

Which video card/power supply do you have?

I would also recommend that you use speedfan to monitor your temp and voltage settings.
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Yeah I have done this all already.
Getting a RMA for my PSU and my memory.
My PSU has about 1.09V coming from the 12V rail, I have never seen such low ratings, I'm not sure if it's right or not, but considering my video card is clocked down 300MHz on the core and the memory I'm thinking it's right.
With on of my memory sticks it blue screens ever time with memtest.
lol, what are the chances I get a defective PSU and memory stick, next to none.
My temps are all fine by the way, it's in the Antec 900, so if anything gets warm it there, it's going to burn up anywhere else :whistling:
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Bad luck man. OCZ is coming off of my list of RAM recomendations.
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silverstone isn't known to be the best. Enermax and Mushkin make good power supplies. Since your dealing with memory that has been tweaked for performance, it is more susceptible to power fluctuations. I wouldn't be surprised if it caused or at least contributed to the memory failure.
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OCZ isn't a bad name, every company is going to have lemons, it's just something that we all have to deal with. What is important is how the company treats you when it happends.

Silverstone may not be the absolute best, but it's still a high end PSU brand that's on the top 5. Probably coming in at 4.

The thing is, the only things I'm having problems with is the 12V rails, and I don't believe the RAM is on the 12V rails, if I remember correct, though I could be mistaken.

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I agree James.

I'm hoping I'm going to have the same experience as you, but right now it looks like I'm going to have to fight with OCz for my RMA.



They give you a bit of trouble?
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lol wasn't that quoted from another topic?
I was just frustrated at the time, when basically they were trouble shooting and wanting to to adjust voltages. We are going to wait on the RMA for my PSU then go from there it sounds like. Though the responses are a bit slower from Silverstone, well alot slower, because I'm only deal with one tech support guy instead of the 4 or 5 at OCZ on the forums. Forum are much better then e-mails for help because everyone can jump in when the other guy is busy.....
James

Edited by james_8970, 26 June 2007 - 01:30 PM.

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Alright, got my uncle to come over since he is a computer engineering. Took the two of us a while to find the problem, well in the end he did. The problem was really odd and we still can't figure out why the computer did this, but in BIOS, the motherboard set the FSB at 200MHz when it should have been 266MHz. Ok so it underclocked itself, weird but whatever. The problem is windows and every program that ran on here still believed that it was running at 2.4GHz, which of course
200MHz x9 =1800MHz, not 2.4GHz
Makes no sence to either one of us, but RMAing the RAM since it's junk, they gave me a number, yippie :whistling:
But the default timing are 5-5-5-15 when it should be 4-5-4-15 which is the next thing I'm going to have to look into as it's still a mystery because there is another set of RAM that I did not buy that has 5-5-5-15 timings. It is obviously lower binned RAM.

At this point in time we think speed fan is just a way of as I've pushed my computer to the max after readjusting the FSB and everything seems to be running fine. If the 12V rail was running at 1.09V I have doubts the computer would even boot. Just to be safe we are getting a voltage meter and checking it ourself tomorrow to rule out the possibility.

But thanx for the help you guys. Now off to bed I go.
James
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