I know the old MOBO i had might have effected this due to differing chip systems but its a fresh instal so this shouldnt be a problem, should it!!!
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#1
Posted 14 April 2005 - 03:21 PM
I know the old MOBO i had might have effected this due to differing chip systems but its a fresh instal so this shouldnt be a problem, should it!!!
#2
Posted 14 April 2005 - 04:28 PM
I assume you know the CPU is OK cos you've used it since on another system.
Personally, I would try the following things :
1. make sure all your hardware is compatible with the mobo by checking manufacturers specs etc
2. Strip system down to bare components (ie only CPU/heatsink, graphics, RAM, keyboard) Remove all drives & their cabling as well as PCI cards etc
3. Clear the bios using the Clear CMOS jumper
4. Double check any jumper settings on the mobo, especially CPU/RAM related ones.
Your original problem may just have been caused by a badly seated video card.
If you still can't get this to work, then post the number of beeps etc before changing anything else.
#3
Posted 14 April 2005 - 08:37 PM
First follow Samm's advice it is very good.
You have to let us know what speed the ram is i.e. pc 3200 ?
Also just to add to Samm's advice take the mobo out of the case and place on a piece of cardboard to eliminate the possibility of a case short.
Rick
#4
Posted 15 April 2005 - 02:04 PM
#5
Posted 15 April 2005 - 07:51 PM
believe me this is a way to common problem and something that is overlooked.
Rick
#6
Posted 15 April 2005 - 09:04 PM
Case can be a factor in this type of problem, especially if theres a metal spacer behind the board that doesn't line up with one of the holes!
Be aware of the following though :
1. Make sure entire underside of board is protected by the card or paper so nothing can make contact with anything that might harm it.
2. Assembling the board this way often results in the front panel soft power switch (or any front panel connectors) no longer reaching to the mobo. This is irrelevant for most of the connectors (although system speaker is handy for diagnostics purposes). But it will mean that you can't power the system on in the normal way.
To overcome this, you will need to make a note of the 2 pins that the power switch normally connects to. When you want to power the system on, make sure PSU is turned on at mains then just briefly bridge the 2 pins with a flat bladed screwdriver.
Make sure obviously, that the screwdriver doesn't come in contact with any other part of the mobo!
#7
Posted 17 April 2005 - 03:16 AM
Edited by flashbax, 17 April 2005 - 03:25 AM.
#8
Posted 17 April 2005 - 03:22 AM
Ok i feel like a total noob but now i put the new MOBO in the same tower and it started up fine got the platinum screen all went well until i came out of bios after telling it to boot from CD. then when it reset it just didnt come back on. I have no idea why it has done this. I cleared the bios jumper and it still will not come back on. I have a j-bracket with 4-leds and it has the sequence that means (early chipset initialization) but just hangs there. Im really at my wits end with this thing now im gonna stamp all over it soon. Ok im off dowm Manchester to calm down. Any ideas on how to get my stupid MOBO working would be much appreciated..
#9
Posted 17 April 2005 - 03:18 PM
This means you would have had to remove it & reinstall it in the new board. Can you tell me what procedures you followed when doing this in regards to the heatsink/fan/thermal paste?
#10
Posted 18 April 2005 - 01:41 PM
#11
Posted 18 April 2005 - 03:55 PM
1. IF you bought a retail CPU (ie came with hsf), then there will have been a thermal pad on the bottom, protected by a film. This film is removed first then hsf installed. No thermal paste is needed so long as you're not overclocking it.
2. IF you bought an OEM cpu, it comes with no warranty, so voiding warranty is not an issue. It also means that you must buy your own hsf. You must make sure hsf is of an adequate rating for your chip. Also, it won't necessarily come with the thermal pad, in which case a good quality thermal paste (such as artic silver) IS required. This should be applied so it is over the die of the cpu, & is of the right amount.
3. If you remove the hsf at any point (eg when removing the cpu), the old paste should be removed & the hsf cleaned before reinstalling it with a new application of thermal paste. As far as I am aware, this also applies to retail cpus/hsfs with pads, but maybe someone else can confirm that.
As far as installing the hsf is concerned, it sounds like you put it on the right way round, just need to make sure it sits squarely over the cpu.
Its also worth noting that the hsf should only be attached when the mobo is out of the case & placed on a hard, flat, non-conductive surface. (eg sheet of cardboard on a desk etc). Installing them while mobo is in the case, places too must pressure on the mobo causing it to bend due to the gap created by the spacers.
Also of course, the system must never be powered up without the hsf securely in place, even for just a second.
I'm telling you all this because its starting to sound like a problem with the processor. The most common of which for a new cpu, are caused by the cpu overheating due to the things I pointed above.
#12
Posted 18 April 2005 - 06:12 PM
3. If you remove the hsf at any point (eg when removing the cpu), the old paste should be removed & the hsf cleaned before reinstalling it with a new application of thermal paste. As far as I am aware, this also applies to retail cpus/hsfs with pads, but maybe someone else can confirm that.
Yes it does also include the pads, if the pad is disturbed in any way such as heating up and cooling down of normal operation even one time you need to clean and reapply
Rick
#13
Posted 19 April 2005 - 01:03 PM
#14
Posted 19 April 2005 - 03:19 PM
We also need to know the ram?
The cpu is it a 3200+ barton socket A or a 64 3200+?
you can download and install Everast it will give you this info
You set the fsb in bios to 200 for a 3200+ cpu but don't do this untill you answer the above because there may be a reason bios did not load the default settings or it could be a jumper on the board but I have to download your manual when you tell us what board you have to be sure
Everast will also give you temps post your cpu temp.
Rick
#15
Posted 19 April 2005 - 03:21 PM
Rick
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