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I never said i wouldnt show some leniency on the girl, but i still do not believe it is right to let her off with simply a fine and a warning. Again she shouldnt be put in jail for a year of her life but she should still be sent to jail. She should spend a few nights in jail as well as pay a fine. That way she would REALIZE what she did was WRONG and illegal.

[coxmaster]

I never said i wouldnt show some leniency on the girl, but i still do not believe it is right to let her off with simply a fine and a warning. Again she shouldnt be put in jail for a year of her life but she should still be sent to jail. She should spend a few nights in jail as well as pay a fine. That way she would REALIZE what she did was WRONG and illegal.

[don77]

Did the article specify what part of the film she recorded?

What does that matter ? if its wrong its wrong, nothing wrong with her paying a fine and doing some time in jail she will learn a valuable lesson and hopefully others will learn from it as well.
Do I think she should do the max no I don't but she needs a little something that will be a reminder of what will happen.

I had friends growing up that did somethings they shouldn't have and kept on doing them because the punishment was never sever enough to detract them from doing it again

[coxmaster]

Our culture is out of control

Where did culture promote pirating videos, or even just recording 20 seconds of a movie?

the only action our society has to it, is to just apply more laws

Piracy, aka stealing, has been illegal for a while so its not really a new law

[don77]

How about downloading a song from some of the "sharing" sites, it is piracy also.

Correct and we do not support p2p programs or help with them.

I didn't know there was a law against recording a t.v show or a movie on t.v ?

[coxmaster]

Most if not all TV shows say directly that "this broadcast may be recorded for personal use but may not be sold or distributed without the express written consent of....."

[don77]

This conversation can keep going round and round in circles bring up every "what if " we can think of

Its safe to assume we all agree there should be punishment but disagree on what the punishment is this is why we have a judicial system in place you may agree with it or not but it has proven to work.

We live in an ever changing time right now and laws today are needed to protect for what ever the purpose is and your right there are more and more laws created or discussed almost everyday we can't possible live by the laws of yesterday today.


Thats just my opinion I m not saying you have to agree you have your own and I respect that

[warriorscot]

Wow, some people here are a little hard on, the part i cant believe is it went so far its the kind of thing that at worse would get you a telling off, its almost unbelievable that someone called the police and even more that they turned up for something so trivial. You see a cool bit of a film someone might like or would make a cool picture its hardly much of a crime to take a picture and its not the kind of thing you take to a court you get told off not to do it again at worse get a caution if you were taking it a bit far.

The law should always have a solid core of common sense and justice at its heart, that is why very few laws are set in stone and most evolve over a period of time. That anyone that thinks Jail time is appropriate for a 20 sec piece of film of anything short of child pornography is just nuts.

People who pirate films don't A do it on digital cameras and B don't flash the camera about.

To me the discussion isnt the legality its the initial problem of where slap on the wrist crimes get court time, to me that screams that the system has severe problems or not enough serious crime(of which their is plenty) to deal with. The court system is for serious crimes, trivial crimes should not be seen by anyone higher than a sherrif.

Also Coxmaster Jail is for serious crimes you do not imprison people for trivial crimes and technicalities, their is in the real world supposed to be a division between how serious an infraction has to be before it can truly be considered a crime, someone who records whole films and releases them would be serious, someone who records a few seconds of low res footage is so trivial that it can hardly be considered an infraction and in most sensible places wouldn't. One of the cornerstones of western justice is fair and representative punishment any amount of jail time for such a small infraction is not fair, fair would have been a telling off.

Edited by warriorscot, 11 August 2007 - 01:03 PM.

[Troy]

The story about a showing her brother, she has the ability to use a digital camera, but not that ability to google "transformer trailer" and watch a legal copy that the studio uses to hype the movie?

I've been following this thread, it's pretty interesting, but all I can ever think of is what jaxisland said here, so true...