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Hopefully that's enough for you.


Indeed, it is. :)
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You missed the point.
You can try to define what theory means, or other words, change things around, add confussion, what ever. Evolution is not proven.
Throw as much blah blah blah in and it still is not proven. (you are correct, creation is not proven ether!)
My hands are tied so to speak so I am trying to watch what I say, my point being nothing can be said to prove ether one.
I am not trying to change what you believe, and I do not state that what you believe to be wrong, just that I do not accept evolution.
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CompooterDummy, cheers. :) You were a worthy adversary, a competent debater, and led me to learn more about many things (evolution, metaphors, the English language, etc.). So thank you. Maybe we can do it again some time. :)

hfcg, yes, evolution is not proven. But as I've stated many, many times in this thread, no scientific theory can ever be proven. However, there is enough evidence for it to be considered a fact by the scientific community, and so I'm presenting it as such. That "blah blah blah" will further explain this, if you choose to read it.

However, also note that I'm not saying you are entirely wrong in your beliefs either, just perhaps you think evolution is more than it actually is. Evolution does not address the origin of life. Evolution does not deny (or require) the existence of a supernatural/divine being. Depending on your personal beliefs (which we cannot discuss, of course), this may shed new light on the issue. Or not. Either way, I think it's useful to know.
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However, also note that I'm not saying you are entirely wrong in your beliefs either, just perhaps you think evolution is more than it actually is. Evolution does not address the origin of life. Evolution does not deny (or require) the existence of a supernatural/divine being. Depending on your personal beliefs (which we cannot discuss, of course), this may shed new light on the issue. Or not. Either way, I think it's useful to know.

Funnily enough, this is what I have had in mind since the near-beginning of this topic (bold quoting is one of my major points), but haven't been able to put it into words, in such a way that conforms to the TOU. Thank you stettybet0 for clarifying this perfectly, it's exactly my point (that I never made).

It's been an enjoyable topic to follow, cheers to all so far for taking the time to make some good arguments, and for adhering to the TOU.

Troy
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:) Back at ya' Stettybet0
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However, also note that I'm not saying you are entirely wrong in your beliefs either, just perhaps you think evolution is more than it actually is. Evolution does not address the origin of life. Evolution does not deny (or require) the existence of a supernatural/divine being. Depending on your personal beliefs (which we cannot discuss, of course), this may shed new light on the issue. Or not. Either way, I think it's useful to know.

Funnily enough, this is what I have had in mind since the near-beginning of this topic (bold quoting is one of my major points), but haven't been able to put it into words, in such a way that conforms to the TOU. Thank you stettybet0 for clarifying this perfectly, it's exactly my point (that I never made).

It's been an enjoyable topic to follow, cheers to all so far for taking the time to make some good arguments, and for adhering to the TOU.

Troy


There is a theory for this that is actually recognized by the Catholics. It's called the theory of Intelligent Design. This theory essentially admits the existence of evolution, but that a higher 'divine' power created the initial organisms that started the tree. Also, interestingly 98.4% of bonobo monkey DNA is exactly the same as humans. That 1.6% difference is amazing... (just brought that up because they were mentioned earlier in this topic)
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Actually, intelligent design is not recognized by the Roman Catholic Church. The proponents of intelligent design tend to be evangelical Protestants. Catholics actually support the theory of evolution, and teach it in their schools. Roman Catholic schools teach evolution without controversy on the basis that scientific knowledge does not extend beyond the physical, and scientific truth and religious truth cannot be in conflict.

Intelligent design isn't merely suggesting that a divine being was behind the origin of life, but that the divine being had a hand in the evolutionary process. That is, instead of saying things like mutation and natural selection are responsible for speciation, intelligent design claims that new species are the result of the divine being wanting there to be a new species. Obviously, intelligent design is rejected by the scientific community.

Interesting side note, humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas...

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Edited by stettybet0, 18 January 2009 - 10:32 AM.

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