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Occasional Start Up problems - should I be worried?


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your welcome... :thumbsup:
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Well, would you believe it! This morning is the first time I have switched on my PC since writing last night that the start up problem appeared to be fixed, and it reappeared once again. :angry:

I really don't know if it is worth continuing with a search for a remedy, I am in your hands, so I will just maintain a regularly updated clone file and wait for the inevitable end!

Cheers,

Roger
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I don't have time right now but later this afternoon or first thing in the morning I will reread the whole thread and see if I overlooked something...
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Hi Happyrock,

I will really appreciate any further suggestions but please do not give up much more time to this problem. I am happy to concede defeat in this instance!

I will look forward to hearing in due course :)

BTW, at the end of next week I will be away for 3 to 4 weeks so any further attempts to solve this will have to be put on hold for that spell,

best wishes and thanks again,

Roger
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download HiJackThis. from here...

Start HiJackThis.

Click on the Open The Misc Tools Section button.

Click on Open Uninstall Manager button.

Click on Save List button.

Save the uninstall_list.txt file to your desktop..


copy-and-paste the file back here...
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G'day!

Thanks again - here is the txt file you want to see. Not sure if this gives you any clues,

best wishes,

Roger

32 Bit HP CIO Components Installer
Adobe AIR
Adobe AIR
Adobe Flash Player 11 ActiveX
Adobe Photoshop 7.0
Adobe Reader X (10.1.3)
Apple Application Support
Apple Mobile Device Support
Apple Software Update
ArcSoft PhotoImpression 6
Ashampoo Burning Studio 11 v.11.0.4
Ashampoo Office 2008 (I:\Program Files\Ashampoo Office 2008)
Ashampoo Photo Optimizer 4 4.0.3
Ashampoo WinOptimizer 7 v.7.26
Ashampoo WinOptimizer 9 v.9.04.31
AtomTime Pro 3.1a
Auto Power-on & Shut-down 2.50
AVG 2012
AVG 2012
AVG 2012
AVS Audio Converter version 6.1
AVS Audio Editor version 5.2
AVS Audio Recorder version 3.9
AVS Cover Editor 1.3.1.96 (AVS4YOU)
AVS Disc Creator version 3.5
AVS DVD Authoring
AVS DVD Copy version 4.1.1
AVS DVDMenu Editor 1.2.1.19
AVS Media Player 3.1
AVS Registry Cleaner version 1.1
AVS Ringtone Maker version 1.6
AVS Screen Capture version 2.0.1
AVS System Info
AVS TV Recorder 2.1.2
AVS Update Manager 1.0
AVS Video Converter 6
AVS Video Editor 6
AVS Video Recorder 2.4
AVS Video ReMaker 4.0.8.140
AVS Video Tools 5.6
AVS4YOU Software Navigator 1.4
Bonjour
ConvertXtoDVD 4.1.19.365
CPUID CPU-Z 1.56
D3DX10
Definition Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB982726) 32-Bit Edition
e-tax 2011
e-tax 2012
FileZilla Client 3.5.2
FLV Player 2.0 (build 25)
FLVPlayer4Free Free FLV Player 4.0.0.0
Google Talk Plugin
Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer
Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer
Google Update Helper
Handy Address Book
HiJackThis
HP Customer Participation Program 13.0
HP Deskjet All-In-One Driver Software 13.0 Rel. 1
HP Document Manager 2.0
HP Imaging Device Functions 13.0
HP Officejet 4500 G510a-f
HP Smart Web Printing 4.5
HP Solution Center 13.0
HP Update
ImgBurn
IrfanView (remove only)
iTunes
Java™ 6 Update 31
Junk Mail filter update
Karen's Replicator
K-Lite Codec Pack 8.0.0 (Full)
marvell 61xx
McAfee Security Scan Plus
McAfee SiteAdvisor
MediaInfo 0.7.38
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile
Microsoft Corporation
Microsoft LifeCam
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office 2010 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Microsoft Office Access MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Access Setup Metadata MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Excel MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Home and Student 2010
Microsoft Office OneNote MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Outlook MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office PowerPoint MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Proof (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Proof (French) 2010
Microsoft Office Proof (Spanish) 2010
Microsoft Office Proofing (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Publisher MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Shared MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Shared Setup Metadata MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Office Single Image 2010
Microsoft Office Word MUI (English) 2010
Microsoft Silverlight
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition [ENU]
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 ATL Update kb973923 - x86 8.0.50727.4053
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable
Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - KB2467174 - x86 9.0.30729.5570
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.4148
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.6161
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable - 10.0.30319
Momento 5.6.1
Moyea FLV Editor Lite version: 1.1.1.846
MSVCRT
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB954430)
MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB973688)
MyAshampoo Toolbar
NVIDIA Display Control Panel
NVIDIA Graphics Driver 275.33
NVIDIA Update 1.3.5
OCR Software by I.R.I.S. 13.0
OpdiTracker
OVT Scanner X86
PDF24 Creator 3.4.0
Picasa 3
PlayReady PC Runtime x86
PVSonyDll
QuickTime
RealNetworks - Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Runtime
RealPlayer
Realtek High Definition Audio Driver
RealUpgrade 1.1
Recuva
Revo Uninstaller Pro 2.5.8
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2446708)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2478663)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2518870)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2539636)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2572078)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2604121)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2633870)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2656351)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2656368)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2656368v2)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2656405)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2686827)
Security Update for Microsoft Excel 2010 (KB2597166) 32-Bit Edition
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553091)
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553096)
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553371) 32-Bit Edition
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2589320) 32-Bit Edition
Security Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2598039) 32-Bit Edition
Security Update for Microsoft PowerPoint 2010 (KB2553185) 32-Bit Edition
Security Update for Microsoft Visio Viewer 2010 (KB2597981) 32-Bit Edition
Shop for HP Supplies
Skype Click to Call
Skype™ 5.9
Speccy
SpeedFan (remove only)
System Requirements Lab
tools-windows
Total Recorder 8.1
Uninstall OVT Scanner
Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2468871)
Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2533523)
Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (KB2600217)
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553065)
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553181) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553267) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553270) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553270) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553270) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553310) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553310) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2553385) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2566458)
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2596964) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Office 2010 (KB2597091) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft OneNote 2010 (KB2553290) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft OneNote 2010 (KB2589345) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Outlook 2010 (KB2553248) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Outlook 2010 (KB2553248) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Outlook Social Connector 2010 (KB2553406) 32-Bit Edition
Update for Microsoft Outlook Social Connector 2010 (KB2553406) 32-Bit Edition
VAP11G
VMware Player
VMware Player
Windows Live Communications Platform
Windows Live Essentials
Windows Live Essentials
Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant
Windows Live Installer
Windows Live Mail
Windows Live Mail
Windows Live Messenger
Windows Live Messenger
Windows Live MIME IFilter
Windows Live Movie Maker
Windows Live Movie Maker
Windows Live Photo Common
Windows Live Photo Common
Windows Live Photo Gallery
Windows Live Photo Gallery
Windows Live PIMT Platform
Windows Live SOXE
Windows Live SOXE Definitions
Windows Live Sync
Windows Live UX Platform
Windows Live UX Platform Language Pack
Windows Live Writer
Windows Live Writer Resources
WinPcap 4.1.1
Yahoo! Messenger
Yahoo! Software Update
Yahoo!7 Toolbar
YouTube Downloader Toolbar v5.6
YTD YouTube Downloader & Converter 3.7
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uninstall
WinPcap 4.1.1
Yahoo! Messenger
Yahoo! Software Update
Yahoo!7 Toolbar
YouTube Downloader Toolbar v5.6
YTD YouTube Downloader & Converter 3.7
and all the other toolbars you can find in the add/remove programs section in the control panel
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Hi and once again, "Thank You"

I have done as you asked and deleted those 6 items plus another 3 as follows:

Google Talk Plugin
Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer
My Ashampoo Toolbar

Any other suggestions?

Incidentally, I might be just imagining it, but the time from the time the Windows opening screen appears to the time the desktop is loaded and ready to go, seems to be longer than usual. Can't be certain!

Thanks,

Roger
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reboot and time the boot to a working desktop...if you don't have a watch or clock with a second hand...most cellphones have a stopwatch built in
also do this after timing your boot...
turn off lifecam
Click Start , type services.msc in the Start Search box...click on it

Double-click Logitech Process Monitor and the services related with the LifeCam.

In Startup type, select Disabled.

Under Service status, click Stop and then click OK

Close services and reboot timing the boot process again...

have you defragged recently...if not do so
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May I also add, and you are more than welcome to wait for the opinion of my colleague happyrock that you also have AVS registry cleaner installed. and ashampoo win optimizer.

IMHO these programs are completely unnecessary on Windows 7.

They had little place on previous versions of Windows, but 7 is far better at managing its system than those previous versions and in my experience you will gain little if any benefit, but will most certainly risk ruining your system.

You also have AVG 2012 installed, if that is the full purchased program, that also includes a optimizer scan

I believe you may well notice a vast improvement if you were to uninstall the AVS registry cleaner, the ashampoo optimizer AND if it was me I would also uninstall the McAfee software you have, and the AVG2012, and again if it was me I would install Microsoft Security Essentials.
However, that is my opinion and not everyone likes MSE, but there are alternatives that are far less obtrusive than AVG and have a reputation for providing equal if not better protection whilst using less resources.
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Hi Folks,

Thanks to you both for your replies. I am sorry that once again I was unable to reply more promptly.

Unfortunately, as mentioned in my ealier message ("BTW, at the end of next week I will be away for 3 to 4 weeks so any further attempts to solve this will have to be put on hold for that spell,") the time has come and we are leaving tomorrow morning to head North in search of better winter weather. Can we therefore close this thread temporarily and I will address these issues on my return home?

I hope this will be possible and if so, please advise what I will need to do to reopen a 'closed' thread.

Thanks for your combined efforts and for the advice. On my return I shall certainly revise my installed programs and make some deletions.

Thanks again,

Roger
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we won't close it...just let us know when you get back...good luck in your search
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Hi Happyrock,

Just a quick note to say that we have found some winter sunshine and as a result we are STILL away, enjoying the warmth of central Queensland.

It is likely that we will be home around mid September (at the current rate of progress), so I will write again when I am able to resume our diagnostic work.

Thanks for your patience,

best wishes,

Roger

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enjoy your vacation...we will still be here when you get back ... :thumbsup:
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Hi again,

I really must apologise for the delay in writing again. The truth is that we have in fact been home for a couple of weeks now, but as you can no doubt imagine, after such a long absence, there really has been more than enough to fill my time around the house and garden. I am only now seeing a way to return to the troubleshooting operation. (I am glad to say the lengthy interstate trip was just magnificent, taking us to many wonderful places we had not previously visited, and being our first 'post-retirement' road trip it has whetted the appetite for more travel.)

I will address the issues raised in your last post very soon and write in a day or two,

Best wishes to all,

Roger
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