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I did a quick translation for part of the log and this was the results Mac:


Name registration:Application Origin: Microsoft-Windows
-Wininit date: 18-09-2012 Notes 09:59:26 AM event ID: 1001 Category of Task:None Level:
Information Keywords:Classic User:
N/D Computer: User-PC Description: To check the file system on C: The type of file system is NTFS.
It was scheduled a disk check.
Windows will now check the disk.
204096 Records of processed files.
1407 Records of large files processed.


0 Records damaged files processed.
0 EA records processed.
118 Records of retesting processed.
270998 Entries index processed.
0 Files not indexed processed.
204096 Descriptors security processed.



THE clean 25 inputs of index not used the index $SII file 0x9. THE clean 25 inputs of index not used the index $SDH file 0x9.
THE clean 25 descriptors of security not used. 33452 Files processed data.


CHKDSK is to check the daily USN ... 138154712 Bytes USN processed. Check the daily USN completed.
CHKDSK is to check the data of the file (phase 4 of 5) ... 204080 Files processed. Check the data in the file complete.
CHKDSK is to check the free space (phase 5 of 5) ... 38195326 Clusters free processed.



Check the free space is complete. Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
312568831 KB of total disk space.
159262640 In KB 168173 files.
105428 KB in 33453 indices. 0 KB in bad sectors.
419455 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by log file.
152781308 KB available on disk.
4096 Bytes in each unit of assignment.
78142207 Units of allocation on the disc.
38195327 Units of allocation available on disc.


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It's not just the blue screens or the computer that freezes and stops responding. Often I have to press 3-4 times the power button to get it to start and eventually working (like a car that won't start). Randomly, the screen turns black and the CPU starts beeping.


If it was ME, I would check that ram one stick at a time, and I would then try another power supply, and then move to the graphics card, but that is easy for me, as I have the spares to do so, four computers in use - two of them at any one time and have a little knowledge

In your situation on a tower system where it is easy to get to the parts, the job itself would not be difficult and I would say go ahead and try. The PSU can be tested in basic with some programs, but the real test can ony ever be either with professional testing OR a replacement PSU

Looking at your image, you are correct and it will not be easy.

I tend to think that it may be best to bite the bullet and pay a computer repair tech.

Of course the diffculty of finding one who is reliable and reasonable in charges is not something I can advise on at your location.

Do you have any knowlegeable acquaintances.

To try our best at present before you are forced into that decision, when I wrote post 27 I had downloaded your motherboard details.
and posted the image for you of that and the graphics card
When you had not replied I deleted them, from my computer

To save me downloading them again, I seem to remember that the motherboard had integrated graphics, disconnect from the card, the connection to the monitor, connect it to the connection on the I/O plate if I am right and it does have the onboard
graphics.

You may need to enter BIOS and change a setting for which graphics to use, but try it without that first.

Post back on that test and we can then have a look at voltages etc.

When you say it takes three or four attempts to boot - is that from when COLD or only after use and whilst still warm.

Is that from a full shut down or only from sleep/hibernation.
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Post back on that test and we can then have a look at voltages etc.

When you say it takes three or four attempts to boot - is that from when COLD or only after use and whilst still warm.

Is that from a full shut down or only from sleep/hibernation.


You mean the ram sticks test?


It takes 3-4 attempts from when its cold, from a full shut down, correct.
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No I meant this

To try our best at present before you are forced into that decision, when I wrote post 27 I had downloaded your motherboard details.
and posted the image for you of that and the graphics card
When you had not replied I deleted them, from my computer

To save me downloading them again, I seem to remember that the motherboard had integrated graphics, disconnect from the card, the connection to the monitor, connect it to the connection on the I/O plate if I am right and it does have the onboard
graphics.

You may need to enter BIOS and change a setting for which graphics to use, but try it without that first.

Post back on that test and we can then have a look at voltages etc.


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To save me downloading them again, I seem to remember that the motherboard had integrated graphics, disconnect from the card, the connection to the monitor, connect it to the connection on the I/O plate if I am right and it does have the onboard
graphics.

You may need to enter BIOS and change a setting for which graphics to use, but try it without that first.

Post back on that test and we can then have a look at voltages etc.


Ok, did that too. I didnt notice any change.
It seems to be working better since I cleaned the fans. It takes 1-2 times to get it started and it hasn't beeped till now.
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Thanks for posting
As I said in an earlier post

WHILST you have the case open check for dust and dirt on the fans especially the fan of the CPU cooler which is mounted to the left of those sticks of ram, where on the image there is a small grey square. (which clearly shows that something is to be inserted there) ALSO if there is dust on the fans check the fins of the CPU cooler.

also CHECK ANY FAN on the video card which will be in one of the horixontal plane slots to the lower left of the image


and now with what you say

It seems to be working better since I cleaned the fans. It takes 1-2 times to get it started and it hasn't beeped till now.


it does seem it may have been dust etc, although of course it

It takes 1-2 times to get it started


cannot be right
What happens when it does not start - hang, black screen etc.
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I push the button, it turns on for a split second then it shuts off. Nothing happens on the screen here since it never really turns on.

I get the black screen and the beeping while I'm using it. Sometimes when I reboot it begins beeping on start up and the screen never turns on. As I said, this hasn't happen for a few days.

But I'm still getting the blue screen with codes like 0x0000000A, 0x0000007F...
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1. If when you ran MEMTEST you ran it as per my colleague rshaffer61`s instructions there is little benefit to running it again

However it is a common mistake NOT to run the complete cycle of tests and as each test of the cycle does a different sort of test to the ram, it can only be really tested by runnng the full cycle - in otherwords confusing test with pass

Here are the tests
http://www.memtest86...ech.html#descri

then you should run it for at least the 5 to 6 passes.

In otherwords each pass is that cycle of tests

2. I am less than certain that it is memory, but that is the first aspect to eliminate

When you have done that - or indeed if you already have post back and we will try other possible checks.
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I run the test more thoroughly. Same result: zero errors.
What can I check now?
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I have read the topic again.

Back on post 22 my colleague rshaffer61 suggested a repair install of Vista.and on post 24 provided you with a link

You will have to Perform a Repair Installation For Vista...guide is here


and maybe that is indeed the way to proceed, if my suggestion below does not provide any other possible cause

On my post 27 withy the images of your board etc I said

WHILST you have the case open check for dust and dirt on the fans especially the fan of the CPU cooler which is mounted to the left of those sticks of ram, where on the image there is a small grey square. (which clearly shows that something is to be inserted there) ALSO if there is dust on the fans check the fins of the CPU cooler.

also CHECK ANY FAN on the video card which will be in one of the horixontal plane slots to the lower left of the image.



Then on post 35 you said

seems to be working better since I cleaned the fans. It takes 1-2 times to get it started and it hasn't beeped till now.




In view of the fact that the cleaning of the inside of the case, the fans etc appears to have stopped the

Plus, every now and then the pc just freezes when I'm using it. I can't do nothing besides rebooting it.


and we are now left with the failure to start I think you should proceed as here.

1. Does the same occur when you start in Safe Mode with Networking - if so

2. Does it occur in Safe Mode only

3. Safe Mode load the Windows generic drive for the graphics - if the problem still occurs

4. Does it occur loading Low Resolution Mode from the F8 screen that uses your installed graphics driver, but as the title suggests in Low Resolution Mode
previously known as VGA mode on XP.


As I said earlier in the topic the extensive errors found on a system file check in post 13 are a cause for concern

Edited by Macboatmaster, 08 October 2012 - 07:42 AM.

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Then on post 35 you said

seems to be working better since I cleaned the fans. It takes 1-2 times to get it started and it hasn't beeped till now.




In view of the fact that the cleaning of the inside of the case, the fans etc appears to have stopped the

Plus, every now and then the pc just freezes when I'm using it. I can't do nothing besides rebooting it.


and we are now left with the failure to start I think you should proceed as here.

1. Does the same occur when you start in Safe Mode with Networking - if so

2. Does it occur in Safe Mode only

3. Safe Mode load the Windows generic drive for the graphics - if the problem still occurs

4. Does it occur loading Low Resolution Mode from the F8 screen that uses your installed graphics driver, but as the title suggests in Low Resolution Mode
previously known as VGA mode on XP.


It did seem to be working better after cleaning it, but soon afterwards I got the black screen accompanied by a whole lot of beeping. Cleaning made it less unstable but not completely ok.

As for feezing in safe mode, I can't say for certain. It hasn't happened but I don't often use Safe Mode for long. Freezing happens randomly now and then and usually within the first 10 minutes of turning on computer.

I'll load the Windows generic driver for the graphics in safe mode.
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1. It does occur in Safe Mode with Networking, yes.

3. I did load the driver for the graphics in safe mode.

2. & 4. I dont know. I'm having trouble just turning on the computer and get it working for more then 3 minutes without crashing.

Moreover, this time I got this:

BIOS Rom checksum error
Keyboard error or no keyboard present

Detecting IDE ATAPI device...
Found CDROM, try to Boot from it ... Fail

Detecting floppy drive A media ...
Insert system disk and press enter

At this point it just stops, keyboard and mouse don't work therefore F1, F5, F10, F11 or any keyboards keys would not work.
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BIOS Rom checksum error


This means that in the boot process the data in the BIOS cannot be read, or is not recognised as the correct data

Defective eg. FLAT discharged CMOS battery is your FIRST check - have you ever noticed if time and date were not correct on Windows

A more concerning cause - if NOT the battery - It is usually caused, but by no means always, when the BIOS is updated and the procedure fails

In those cases it MAY be corrected, on the older motherboards by restting CMOS which is usually achieved by the use of the CMOS reset pins on the motherboard. These are normally marked CMOS rst or similar and the jumper is taken off the pins and oved across to the rst pin.
On some boards, there is a CMOS reset push switch.
The CMOS battery is removed as well, and then the reset.

On newer boards where the battery holds only the time/date and password if set for the BIOS, the situation is different and you will need to consult your motherboard manual

The problem may also require a BIOS flash/update if the cause is a corrupted BIOS that cannot be solved the reset.

I would also TRY FIRST if you can entering BIOS on the F key usually but not always F2 - sometimes delete and use the BIOS menu to USE default BIOS

HOWEVER the error may also be caused NOT by the data in the BIOS ROM but by a motherboard fault, a processor fault or indeed occasionally a PSU fault.

These links may help you understand
They do NOT relate to your computer
http://h10025.www1.h...en&cc=us&dlc=en


http://h30434.www3.h...ED/td-p/1869579
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