
Slight (but very bothersome) stuttering on my laptop when playing K-Sh
#1
Posted 29 September 2015 - 01:12 PM

#2
Posted 29 September 2015 - 08:43 PM

Get Process Explorer
http://live.sysinter...com/procexp.exe
Save it to your desktop then run it (Vista or Win7 - right click and Run As Administrator).
View, Select Column, check Verified Signer, OK
Options, Verify Image Signatures
Click twice on the CPU column header to sort things by CPU usage with the big hitters at the top.
Wait a full minute then:
File, Save As, Save. Open the file Procexp.txt on your desktop and copy and paste the text to a reply.
#3
Posted 30 September 2015 - 07:02 AM

Get Process Explorer
http://live.sysinter...com/procexp.exe
Save it to your desktop then run it (Vista or Win7 - right click and Run As Administrator).
View, Select Column, check Verified Signer, OK
Options, Verify Image Signatures
Click twice on the CPU column header to sort things by CPU usage with the big hitters at the top.
Wait a full minute then:
File, Save As, Save. Open the file Procexp.txt on your desktop and copy and paste the text to a reply.
Process CPU Private Bytes Working Set PID Description Company Name Verified Signer
#4
Posted 30 September 2015 - 08:37 AM

The first svchost.exe is using too much CPU time. Run Process Explorer as before and click on the first svchost.exe then do File Save OK. This time the file will be called svchost.exe.txt. Open it and copy and paste it to a reply.
While you have Process Explorer running, unclick the svchost.exe and then watch the display for a while. Do you see anything suddenly popping up close to the top? Often WmiPrvSE.exe will periodically jump up in the ranks.
#5
Posted 30 September 2015 - 10:25 AM

The first svchost.exe is using too much CPU time. Run Process Explorer as before and click on the first svchost.exe then do File Save OK. This time the file will be called svchost.exe.txt. Open it and copy and paste it to a reply.
While you have Process Explorer running, unclick the svchost.exe and then watch the display for a while. Do you see anything suddenly popping up close to the top? Often WmiPrvSE.exe will periodically jump up in the ranks.
I noticed WmiPrvSE.exe as well as Avast and a few others frequenting near the top, but Wmi was one of the worst offenders.
#6
Posted 30 September 2015 - 11:08 AM

The first svchost.exe is using too much CPU time. Run Process Explorer as before and click on the first svchost.exe then do File Save OK. This time the file will be called svchost.exe.txt. Open it and copy and paste it to a reply.
While you have Process Explorer running, unclick the svchost.exe and then watch the display for a while. Do you see anything suddenly popping up close to the top? Often WmiPrvSE.exe will periodically jump up in the ranks.
I also notice svchost.exe and dwm,exe show up. I ran the game in windowed and watched the Process Explorer to see if I could pinpoint the stuttering to a task, but it was rather difficult as the game stutters a little too often to point a finger at one thing. I went ahead and saved a copy of what it looks like while I run the game. Still, WmiPrvSE.exe and svchost.exe seem most guilty, like you mentioned.
#7
Posted 30 September 2015 - 11:36 AM

Run process explorer as before but make sure that under View that Show Lower Pane is checked. Sort things by CPU as before so that the highest users are at the top. Wait until SVCHOST.EXE gets up near the top then hit the SPACE bar. Click on SVCHOST.EXE and you should see a new pane at the bottom. Then File, SAVE OK.
Your last log shows
Interrupts 2.36 0 K 0 K n/a Hardware Interrupts and DPCs
which probably means that the driver for your game is very inefficient at least for this operating system. See if they have a newer version. I suppose it could also be your video driver but it looked OK in your first log.
You can right click on the Avast ball in the system tray (probably hidden by windows- click on the two stacked up arrows to the left of the clock) and select Avast Shields Control and Disable for 10 minutes OK then play your game and see if Avast is at fault.
For WMI:
I would first just right click on the file in Process Explorer and Suspend. See if that makes a difference.
For DWM.exe that your desktop manager that makes the fancy aero displays. You can probably suspend it with Process Explorer or you can stop the service:
Open up Services from Control Panel or the start menu, and then find the “Desktop Window Manager Session Manager” service in the list, and click the stop button. Note that you will be switched to the Basic theme when you click the button.
#8
Posted 30 September 2015 - 02:01 PM

When svchost.exe reaches near the top of the list I press space bar and then click on it, but the pane on the bottom half of the screen remains blank. Suspending Avast did not solve my problem. Whenever I try to suspend WMI
Run process explorer as before but make sure that under View that Show Lower Pane is checked. Sort things by CPU as before so that the highest users are at the top. Wait until SVCHOST.EXE gets up near the top then hit the SPACE bar. Click on SVCHOST.EXE and you should see a new pane at the bottom. Then File, SAVE OK.
Your last log shows
Interrupts 2.36 0 K 0 K n/a Hardware Interrupts and DPCs
which probably means that the driver for your game is very inefficient at least for this operating system. See if they have a newer version. I suppose it could also be your video driver but it looked OK in your first log.
You can right click on the Avast ball in the system tray (probably hidden by windows- click on the two stacked up arrows to the left of the clock) and select Avast Shields Control and Disable for 10 minutes OK then play your game and see if Avast is at fault.
For WMI:
I would first just right click on the file in Process Explorer and Suspend. See if that makes a difference.
For DWM.exe that your desktop manager that makes the fancy aero displays. You can probably suspend it with Process Explorer or you can stop the service:
Open up Services from Control Panel or the start menu, and then find the “Desktop Window Manager Session Manager” service in the list, and click the stop button. Note that you will be switched to the Basic theme when you click the button.
Suspending Avast did not solve my issue, sadly. Whenever I try to suspend WmiPrvSE.exe it says "Unable to suspend the process: Access is denied". Lastly, when I followed your instructions in Process Explorer, found svchost.exe when it got close to the top, hit spacebar, and clicked it, nothing showed up on the pane on the bottom half of the screen.
#9
Posted 30 September 2015 - 02:20 PM

Sorry, I'm silly. I ran it as an administrator, and then everything worked okay. Suspending Wmi seemed to improve performance, though I think I still caught a few jitters while playing, yet my fps never dipped below 100. I was able to save svchost.exe, here it is.
#10
Posted 30 September 2015 - 03:29 PM

This last log really looks pretty decent. System Idle is high and interrupts low.
See if you can run the wmi diagnostic:
https://www.microsof...ls.aspx?id=7684
#11
Posted 30 September 2015 - 08:23 PM

This last log really looks pretty decent. System Idle is high and interrupts low.
See if you can run the wmi diagnostic:
It seems to be all clear, except the "# of machines w/ WMI enumeration errors (E) " is 1, and "# of machines w/ WMI provider CIM registration failures (W)" is 1. I'm willing to try practically anything to get this game to run properly. While the game may not be very efficiently created, my friend has a laptop with an older GPU and CPU, and still manages to run it completely smoothly. After investing $300 in a controller to play this game, I need it to run smoothly or I will be a very sad person. I appreciate all your help thus far.
Edit: I just waited for svchost.exe to reach the top, then hit spacebar. I suspended svchoste.exe, and the problem persisted.
Edited by CaptainGongan, 30 September 2015 - 08:39 PM.
#12
Posted 30 September 2015 - 09:50 PM

You might just go in and stop the wmi service and see what stops working. Type:
services.msc in the search box and hit Enter. then when the services menu comes up, scroll down to the Windows Management Instrumentation service and right click on it and select Properties. You should be able to STOP the service then change the Startup Type to Disabled. OK If odd things start happening then you can turn it back on.
Another possibility is rebuilding the repository:
https://support.soft...kspace/kb/88861
Sometimes third party vendors will add stuff to the wmi list and they don't know what they are doing and it causes problems. I think when you rebuild the repository it dumps the third part stuff. They don't say in the article but you need an elevated cmd window: Start, All Programs, Accessories, right click on Command Prompt and Run as Administrator. I had to do this to mine when it was losing about 10% CPU to WMI every 10 seconds or so. It fixed the problem.
Tho we don't see it in Process Explorer it is possible that some other program is causing problems. You can try typing MSCONFIG in the search box and hit Enter. This should bring up the System Configuration window. Go to Services tab and click on the box to hide Microsoft Services then uncheck
everything that remains (except your network and avast and maybe your video). Go to Startup tab and uncheck everything (except your network and avast and maybe your video). OK and reboot. If it doesn't help then go back into msconfig and recheck the
things you turned off. If it helps then go back and turn on a few items each
time until you find the culprit.
#13
Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:39 AM

#14
Posted 01 October 2015 - 08:17 AM

It's not a window. You have to open an elevated prompt
Start, All Programs, Accessories, right click on Command Prompt and Run as Administrator, Yes
winmgmt /verifyrepository
WMI repository is consistent
C:\Windows\system32>
#15
Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:26 PM

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